Ecstatic Awareness #7 -- Noticing the Miraculous in our Lives


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RBCF 3000: Good evening, dear friends.

HOST LFST Mystic:       I came in here to help 3k...  Please bear with me as I am new to this room =o)

Rochelle adrift: Welcome and well met, Mystic

Zamurito:   Nice to meet ya Mystic

HOST LFST Mystic:       Rochelle   many thanks to you  =o)

RBCF 3000: Ok, we're about to begin the next class: "Noticing the Miraculous in our lives."

Rochelle adrift: <sigh>  great stuff, 3000

SEEKNGSTUD:       is that referencing some religious experience ?

RBCF 3000: This is the 7th class session of a 25-week course in "Ecstatic Awareness"

RBCF 3000: SEEKNGSTUD, yes, certain religious experiences would be included in ecstatic awareness.

Rochelle adrift: Names on the screen can be miraculous, incredibly

Rochelle adrift: so and its great to have this medium to share

RBCF 3000: Once we get started, we'll operate on informal

RBCF 3000: protocol, wherein we just wait for an idea to complete

RBCF 3000: before commenting.

RBCF 3000: Welcome, everyone. Tonight is our seventh class in

RBCF 3000: Ecstatic Awareness: "Noticing the Miraculous in our

RBCF 3000: lives." Once again, for those who are joining us for

RBCF 3000: the first time, the way we are using the word

RBCF 3000: "ecstatic" here means entering into states of

RBCF 3000: consciousness, accompanied by transformation of

RBCF 3000: being, in which the supernatural and the Miraculous

RBCF 3000: can be witnessed and experienced directly, even

RBCF 3000: including the realms of Divinity.

RBCF 3000: .

RBCF 3000: Before we begin tonight's lesson, let's hear if any of

RBCF 3000: you are trying some of the exercises we've been

RBCF 3000: discussing. These include stopping the internal

RBCF 3000: dialogue; listening, tasting and feeling on deep levels;

RBCF 3000: dream and trance work; and monastic submission for

RBCF 3000: at least 30 years.  Go right ahead if you've been trying

RBCF 3000: any of these ...

Planetshpr:       <---monastic submission for 3 years.  will let you know, in 27, how it worked.

Zamurito:   3k, yes I have been working on stopping the internal dialogue...

RBCF 3000: Planetshpr, what have you noticed so far?

Planetshpr:       3K, that the first wall is ego.... <smiling>

RBCF 3000: Zamurito, is it very easy to do that?

Zamurito:   Once you can do this, it shows how repetitive our lives really are

Zamurito:   No :))

Planetshpr:       every once in awhile, I do glimpse a hole in the wall....

RBCF 3000: Planetshpr, seems to me that ego is also the last wall, no?

Planetshpr:       LOL!  3K, Ego may be the ONLY wall!  roflmao!

Planetshpr:       cannot know!

Planetshpr:       ... course... I am using "Ego" to cover unconscious beliefs, issues, subconscious programs,

Planetshpr:       etc., etc.

RBCF 3000: Zamurito, but do you have some success? Has the world slowed down a bit, if not stopped?

Zamurito:   Yes, it has.  But it is tough to reach on a regular basis....

RBCF 3000: Planetshpr, can "ego" be *everything* that separates us from Godhood?

RBCF 3000: Zamurito, well, playing the piano or speaking Chinese is not that easy either, eh?

Planetshpr:       perhaps, 3K, if one accepts the broad definition I assign, yes.

Rochelle adrift: ego certainly restricts us

Zamurito:   heh, yea, 3k ;)))

Claritybay:       aloha everyone

Planetshpr:       hiya Clarity!

Rochelle adrift: Hi Clarity

Claritybay:       mahalo planet

Zamurito:   3k, finally managed to stop the world....

Claritybay:       rochelle

Zamurito:   And see energy as it flows....

RBCF 3000: Ok, let's go to the first idea we have tonight-- protocol for a minute, please.

Planetshpr:       Questions of ego and monastic submission take me to question my perception of reality.

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RBCF 3000: Zamurito, wonderful!  Let's come back to that in a little while.

Zamurito:   Certainly

RBCF 3000: Ok, please hold comments for a minute ................................

RBCF 3000: My basic premise, tonight, is that the world has

RBCF 3000: always been magical and intelligent, but our cultural

RBCF 3000: context has indoctrinated us, from the very beginning,

RBCF 3000: to give credence only to acceptable perceptions.

RBCF 3000: .

RBCF 3000: Until children's range of perceptions and apprehensions

RBCF 3000: becomes fixated this way, they are continually terrified

RBCF 3000: by all the "monsters" and "demons" that keep hiding

RBCF 3000: under their beds or jumping out at them. Children,

RBCF 3000: autistics and schizophrenics also are particularly apt to

RBCF 3000: see angels, faeries, invisible friends and even the

RBCF 3000: Blessed Virgin..

RBCF 3000: .

Claritybay:       true with the exception of those who have changed the world


RBCF 3000: We are taught to dismiss these reports as

RBCF 3000: "imagination" or "illusion" when, just as easily, our

RBCF 3000: *not* seeing all these things can be taken as sleep,

RBCF 3000: amnesia or delusion.

RBCF 3000: .

RBCF 3000: As adults, with all our "normal" fixations, it takes

RBCF 3000: practices to break these fixations. We have already

RBCF 3000: talked about some of the preliminary exercises for

RBCF 3000: doing this. Now we wish to start noticing how our lives

RBCF 3000: and our realities do not really conform to all these

RBCF 3000: notions that have become our untested operating

RBCF 3000: beliefs.

RBCF 3000: .

RBCF 3000: If you come along a little further, you will begin to see

RBCF 3000: that our lives are actually discontinuous, with strange

RBCF 3000: breaks and anomalies that we have been

RBCF 3000: systematically ignoring, and that even the "very

RBCF 3000: reasonable" sequentialities of "cause-and-effiect,"

RBCF 3000: "before-and-after" and "this-and-that" are nothing

RBCF 3000: more than artificial cyphers. It's as if the gross

RBCF 3000: phenomena are trying to conform to the principles of

RBCF 3000: quantum mechanics.

RBCF 3000: .

RBCF 3000: For example, I have many times discovered that my

RBCF 3000: keys were not where I always put them and, after

RBCF 3000: searching my entire house, I come back to the same

RBCF 3000: place, only to find them there. Sometimes I still

RBCF 3000: couldn't see them, but I could put my hand around

RBCF 3000: them, and lo! there they were.

RBCF 3000: .

RBCF 3000: Another example I have is that I have audio tapes for

RBCF 3000: studying vocal music. On one tape I had memorized a

RBCF 3000: certain passage, but later, when I played the tape

RBCF 3000: again, the first section of the piece had been replaced

RBCF 3000: by a duplicate of the second section; that is, the part

RBCF 3000: I had carefully memorized had disappeared and, in its

RBCF 3000: place was not a gap, but another form.

RBCF 3000: ****** Let's stop here for some discussion about

RBCF 3000: gaps, anomalies, synchronicities and incongruities you

RBCF 3000: may have noticed in your own lives. Go right ahead

RBCF 3000: ......

Rochelle adrift: Does it not sometimes seem what happens really is

Rochelle adrift: required?

RBCF 3000: Rochelle adrift, absolutely! What have you noticed?

RBCF 3000: Planetshpr, right.

Planetshpr:       ;-)

Rochelle adrift: Just beginning to notice what happens tends to

Rochelle adrift: work out as what I require

Zamurito:   Rochelle, I agree.

Rochelle adrift: It may always have been that way but maybe now I

Rochelle adrift: see it

DCizunas:   It seems like I rely on meditation to supply what I missed during the day that I should have

DCizunas:   ..seen

Rochelle adrift: DC, geesh, never say "should"

DCizunas:   Rochelle, but sadly true...we miss a lot

RBCF 3000: DCizunas, what does it seem like you have missed?

Rochelle adrift: DC, we see what we need to when we are ready?

Sparkling Hope:   Each moment is a miraculous orchestration of the vibrancies of life for me ~

DCizunas:   3K, it might even be looking at the veins of the petal of a flower I didn't really take time

Sparkling Hope:   Sounds trite......but 'tis so....

Rochelle adrift: Sparkling

DCizunas: see right then

RBCF 3000: Sparkling Hope, that's exactly where I want everybody to get to!

Rochelle adrift: :::the veins in the leaf, and the light and the

Rochelle adrift: balance:::

HOST LFST Mystic:       We see what has always been open to us when we allow it to be seen

RBCF 3000: DCizunas, now that you know that you didn't stop and

RBCF 3000: take the time, what can you do next time?

Rochelle adrift: Yes, Mystic, we become ready to see one day?

DCizunas:   Exactly Rochelle, but seems like we are too busy to stop sometimes

Planetshpr:       Slowing down the world makes it easier to see such things.

WigwamLady:       Explain Host

Rochelle adrift: It is sad that we as children were so stifled

DCizunas:   3K, the ideal would be to take the time, but sometimes just not possible to see all for me

Claritybay:       romance slows things down abit

Sparkling Hope:   <warm smiles> . . . she can stop and see the flowers or the flowers will observe her...<warm

Sparkling Hope:   smile>

HOST LFST Mystic:       Rochelle... we are born seeing and through "upbringing" our vision becomes clouded

DCizunas:   How beautiful Hope

RBCF 3000: DCizunas, can you *begin* somewhere?  Can you make some small decision in this now?

WigwamLady:       Our vision of how things should be?

Rochelle adrift: that is society placing us in a fixed place to

M Natural 1:      the questions become obvious when you realize the answers

Rochelle adrift: conform and get along with society

Zamurito:   Yes, host....It is a process of "Un-Doing"

Rochelle adrift: Un doing our conditioning

RBCF 3000: Sparkling Hope, nice way to put it-- and I hope that will come out of this class.

HOST LFST Mystic:       A process of re-learning

DCizunas:   3K, I have tried to simplify but seem to still need more hours to examine all

Rochelle adrift: yes, Mystic

RBCF 3000: DCizunas, I find that it takes only a moment.

Sparkling Hope:   3000. . . everything that you wish and more will come out of this class... for there are

Rochelle adrift: I hope I am allowing my 4 children an easier path

Rochelle adrift: back to that

WigwamLady:       Un-Doing all that our parents taught us?

Sparkling Hope:   miracles, synchronicities and little "oops"es all about........

M Natural 1:      when you shead the mundane all thats left is the truth

HOST LFST Mystic:       Rochelle.  You are

Rochelle adrift:

DCizunas:   3K, that is what I hope to discover...for in seeing the flower petal I miss the water etc.

RBCF 3000: Rochelle adrift, suppose an easier path does not bring

RBCF 3000: your children to fulfillment?  What do you really wish

RBCF 3000: for them?

Rochelle adrift: I wish what they choose is for the reason of

Rochelle adrift: their hearts and not what society leads them to

Rochelle adrift: expect

Planetshpr:       and so, we create our OWN hells, in our interpretations of events....

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Tipherath: 3000...where is your whim to take us?

Rochelle adrift: its a good topic

RBCF 3000: Ok, friends-- let's go to the next idea, which some of you have properly anticipated...

RBCF 3000: The next stage of getting to the miraculous that I'd

RBCF 3000: like to talk about, comes out of the exercises that

RBCF 3000: some of you are practicing. You are walking along,

RBCF 3000: when suddenly your impressions of the situation are

RBCF 3000: doubled, or even tripled!

RBCF 3000: .

RBCF 3000: Your awareness is suddenly very keen, and you can

RBCF 3000: "taste" or "touch" the essence of the things or

RBCF 3000: people you are passing, at a distance. That is to

RBCF 3000: say, the finer materialities interpenetrate each

RBCF 3000: other, and each has its own intelligence, which you

RBCF 3000: now can discern at some subtle level, at least until

RBCF 3000: you start thinking about it too much.

RBCF 3000: .

RBCF 3000: Another form of this phenomenon is that you hear

RBCF 3000: the "song" in everything-- every thing has as if a

RBCF 3000: spirit nymph or a guardian that we have stopped

RBCF 3000: noticing, but when we get truly quiet inside, they

RBCF 3000: begin singing to us again.

RBCF 3000: .

RBCF 3000: The wind, the leaves, insects, the sound of my

RBCF 3000: tires rolling along, the shine of the sun, the

RBCF 3000: radiance of the moon, the love of my mother's

RBCF 3000: heart-- all have their own songs that we can now

RBCF 3000: hear.

RBCF 3000: .

RBCF 3000: Even in the sounds that started out as music there

RBCF 3000: exist whole new levels of music underneath or

RBCF 3000: behind what we have been hearing-- the part that

RBCF 3000: only our quiet mind hears. This paramusic has

RBCF 3000: intelligence and power that can heal, or harm if

RBCF 3000: misused.

RBCF 3000: .

RBCF 3000: This is one of the reasons we are taught not to

RBCF 3000: seek powers for gratification, but to be sweet and

RBCF 3000: open enough that, when we are pollinated with

RBCF 3000: power, only joy and beauty will spring forth from

RBCF 3000: us.

RBCF 3000: ****** At this point, I'd love to hear what has

RBCF 3000: touched you, what you have heard in your heart,

RBCF 3000: what you have suddenly known without knowing. 

RBCF 3000: Go right ahead now .....

Sndynasty: hummm, are we speaking of sudden heightening of perceptions??

RBCF 3000: Sndynasty, yes, exactly

Selph2000: WOW

RBCF 3000: Sndynasty, what has been your experience with heightened awareness?

M Natural 1:      when you realize the questions the answers become obvious

DCizunas:   3K, you speak of doubled and tripled, but there are even more dimensions...trying to get...

Planetshpr:       3K, this is where what I have called "psychic connection" comes in, for me.

RBCF 3000: M Natural, do you find that the "answers" are sometimes just bigger questions?

DCizunas: those at this stage of my life

Planetshpr:       just KNOWING things.

Selph2000: it  sounded as if you were channeling there 3K

M Natural 1:      yes

Sndynasty: mine are kind of minor compared to some, just heightened audio and perceptions of feeling

ExplrngLfe:       Heightening awareness :It feels there is really no intensity to heighten awareness fully .

RBCF 3000: DCizunas, the doubling and tripling is not an exact correlation with number of dimensions.

M Natural 1:      but i enjoy learning them

HOST LFST Mystic:       Perception of any kind is not minor Snd   =o)

Sndynasty: hearing things so clearly, hearing things that are not ordinalry heard

Tipherath:, you're looking for people who just might

Tipherath: happen to be going through what your

Tipherath: experiencing?

Sparkling Hope:   I can tell you of the experience I had yesterday.... It was wondrous....

DCizunas:   3K, it just seems that even being heightened, we still can get more

Rochelle adrift: I have never personally known any psychic even

Rochelle adrift: though I tend to feel open to it but

Sparkling Hope:   But then......everyday is for me ~   LOL

RBCF 3000: Planetshpr, yes, we do become quite psychic, even

RBCF 3000: telepathic and certainly empathic, on this path.

Tipherath: Timing is such an untimely thing...

DCizunas:   What happened Hope??

Planetshpr:       or even psychically telekinetic! <g>

Selph2000: Sparkling..i want to hear

Rochelle adrift: I know two trees growing with a path underneath

Rochelle adrift: they are huge great firs

RBCF 3000: Tipherath, I can find such people in the grocery

RBCF 3000: store or the bowling alley. My task here is to see if

RBCF 3000: I can properly describe the process.

Sparkling Hope:   DCiz......would you like the simplistic event or the more mystical?

Sparkling Hope:   ; )

Zamurito:   3k, yes this happened to me when i stopped the world.  First time I had actually "listened"

Zamurito:   without my ears

RBCF 3000: DCizunas, yes more and more and more and more and more

Tipherath: 3000...LOL...we shop in different neighborhoods I guess...

Sndynasty: Go on, Hope, tell more, please

DCizunas:   Hope, a little lead in of the first, and then the mystical you experienced

RBCF 3000: Zamurito, how did you get to it?

Rochelle adrift: those trees I wish I could say how they make me

Rochelle adrift: feel

Zamurito:   Physical exercise, then mental quietness.....

Sparkling Hope:   A great bird with a white head was flying toward me....I was about to become afraid......and

Sparkling Hope:   then I entered the quiet of my own heart......

Sparkling Hope:   The bird flew through me.....and bore me up to heights that were magnificent......

Selph2000: lose the meaning with  words...i know

Sparkling Hope:   About the time I was "soaring", I was placed on the softness of my own soul.......

RBCF 3000: Rochelle adrift, don't you "say" how you feel with your very song?

Sparkling Hope:   .....and I beheld the bird above me......who touched its wingtips together above its own head.

Sparkling Hope:   I noticed it had become what I thought was a teardrop......

Sparkling Hope:   but changed.......and I knew it to be a droplet........

Sparkling Hope:   a singular droplet........from a similiar singular wave.......from the vastness of the Ocean

Sparkling Hope:   that is the very heart of the One.

RBCF 3000: Sparkling Hope, wonderful vision!

DCizunas:   Hope, what a wonderful message sent to you

Sparkling Hope:   DCiz...  mystical nature of Oneness. . .

Planetshpr:       Rochelle, dear one, there are MANY ways to say "should," are there not?  That one was...

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Sparkling Hope:   yes DCiz.....

Planetshpr:       I should contribute more.

ExplrngLfe:       .

Planetshpr:       Not true.

RBCF 3000: Planetshpr, "should"???  Then either do, or do not.

Rochelle adrift: I mean as far as anything psychic, or past life,

Rochelle adrift: or anything out of the ordinary....I believe but

Tipherath: 3000...I like the way you handle the room, nice.

Rochelle adrift: I have never experienced anything like that

Planetshpr:       exactly, 3k.

Planetshpr:       or just be with what IS.

Sparkling Hope:   <smiles>........Tiph......synchronicity.......I was thinking the same thing....

M Natural 1:      good night room

RBCF 3000: Tipherath, my secret is that I play inspirational music the whole time

ExplrngLfe:       .

Sparkling Hope:   3000.........I sing it..........

Sparkling Hope:   ; )

Tipherath: 3000...looking forward to the night you smoke

Zamurito:   3k and Tipherath are old school chums.....hehehe

Selph2000: ((((((((((Brah))))))))))))))))))

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RBCF 3000: Tipherath, you can find such a night looking *backward* as well

RBCF Heart:       <~~~doesn't need dope to get high

Tipherath: 3000...

Planetshpr:       Heart, drugs are not necessary to get high... and some use them as a way to map into a new territory.

RBCF 3000: <-- gets way too high just on energies

Tipherath: 3000...might be the time for a fresh infusion of topic-stuff, no?

RBCF Heart:       I get high on energies......

Rochelle adrift: The wonderful thing is to read and believe that

Rochelle adrift: we are all connected and special

Starlight044:     so do i rbcf

RBCF Heart:      

RBCF 3000: Ok, friends, let's go into the final point for tonight's lesson ...

RBCF 3000: ......................................

RBCF 3000: The final notion I'd like to present to you tonight,

RBCF Heart:       sitting up straight, paying attention to 30000

RBCF 3000: for your consideration, is that, as quantum physics

RBCF 3000: observes, the world responds to whatever intention

RBCF 3000: we have set when we observe it. We will go into

RBCF 3000: great detail on this in a later class, but at this point

RBCF 3000: I'd like you to get a sense of what such an idea

RBCF 3000: implies.

RBCF 3000: .

RBCF 3000: When I began my studies, it was the 1950's--

RBCF 3000: basically "Pleasantville" but without the

RBCF 3000: pleasantness. The world was flat, and everybody

RBCF 3000: knew what their roles were, more or less. At that

RBCF 3000: time, as a child and then a teen, I determined that

RBCF 3000: there had to be more to the world than what I was

RBCF 3000: seeing.

RBCF 3000: .

RBCF 3000: It had to have more dimensions than the lies of my

RBCF 3000: parents and teachers, and it had to have more

RBCF 3000: beauty than all the pollution, the disregard for

RBCF 3000: nature and humanity that I could see around me,

RBCF 3000: the cold war and the alienation that most people

RBCF 3000: appeared to be suffering.

RBCF 3000: .

RBCF 3000: I suffered along with them, but along with my

RBCF 3000: suffering I was practicing these very exercises that

RBCF 3000: I am now offering to you, and which many of you

RBCF 3000: have been already doing anyway. It took decades

RBCF 3000: for me to notice any significant changes (unless

RBCF 3000: you count increasing sophistication of the

RBCF 3000: teachings that became available), but finally I could

RBCF 3000: no longer deny that the world was indeed a flux,

RBCF 3000: and was following my intention.

RBCF 3000: .

RBCF 3000: I admit that this may just as easily prove psychosis

RBCF 3000: as well as the position I am taking but, as don Juan

RBCF 3000: would say, a warrior properly insists on his reality,

RBCF 3000: and goes happily to his death not knowing whether

RBCF 3000: he made the right choice, but knowing that he

RBCF 3000: made the choice with all his heart.

RBCF 3000: ****** Well, friends, those are the ideas and

RBCF 3000: practices that I'd like you to try out for yourselves.

RBCF 3000:  Now let's hear your questions and comments. 

Planetshpr:       I saw a bumpersticker today that said, "BE REALISTIC.  Expect Miracles!"  The world has come far!

Zamurito:   Uh, the worlds not flat?

Tipherath: (a bit too much of the "I" left in ya', 3000, smile,

Tipherath: and you're rambling from a sweet point to the fringe)

Rochelle adrift: LOL Planet, wonderful!!!

RBCF 3000: Tipherath, how much "I" would you like to see in me? 

Planetshpr:       Once upon a time we would have been burned at the stake for this stuff!

Rochelle adrift: we probably were, Planet

Tipherath: What's the core point on the plate?

Sparkling Hope:

Sparkling Hope:   <smiles>

RBCF 3000: Sparkling Hope, ok, comin' right up! 

Rochelle adrift: <shudder>

Planetshpr:       3000, it has been said that everything after the word "I" is a story we tell...  it is how

Planetshpr:       we create the world.

Rochelle adrift: sorry Sparkling, your smile is better

Tipherath: old saying, and still valid

RBCF 3000: <-- feels like he's hanging right on the cross with Jesus, sometimes-- maybe Barrabas?

HOST LFST Mystic:       Rochelle.... no reason to shudder, if you were, those experiences have brought you to

HOST LFST Mystic:       the here and now =o)

RBCF 3000: Planetshpr, I completely agree.

Rochelle adrift: being here, now is where we are meant to be, don't

Rochelle adrift: you think?

HOST LFST Mystic:       yes Rochelle

Grazhopprr:       I=eye=window to the soul=perspective=belief=manifestation thereof

Tipherath: 3, so...a cross?

Zamurito:   My take on this is that there is so much more out 'there' than we see....

DCizunas:   I agree Zamurito

Rochelle adrift: I just wish I lived in a nearer time zone

HOST LFST Mystic:       Zam.....  agree

Zamurito:   We have to break the mirror of self reflection.....

Tipherath: 3000...?

RBCF 3000: Tipherath, are you asking why I feel like I'm on the

RBCF 3000: cross with Jesus? It's because of the intensity of

RBCF 3000: existence. I hold all the paradoxes and

RBCF 3000: contradictions and anomalies together.

HOST LFST Mystic:       Zam..... the mirror is what helps us to see?

RBCF Heart:       Liz, Im me please

RBCF 3000: Zamurito, "I" can't break itself, though, right?  How

RBCF 3000: does it get broken so it can be properly reformed?

Grazhopprr:       impossible to break the mirror, it is always there, just make a new reflection to see

Planetshpr:       properly?????

Zamurito:   Host, only to the me me me

Zamurito:   3k, with a little help from our friends

Sparkling Hope:   3000 gets purged in the fires of purification.....the moment we stand naked before ourselves.

RBCF 3000: Grazhopprr, maybe so. But then, how is the new reflection any more reliable than the old?

Planetshpr:       It is said that "I" can be broken...  some report the experience.

Planetshpr:       the ego dies....  the Self emerges.

RBCF 3000: Sparkling Hope, I suppose so, and I like the naked part

Sparkling Hope:   The revelatory moment......the death of the ego ..... comes when the ego dies.........

Selph2000: DA-DA

Sparkling Hope:   3000.......why did I know you would?   ROFL!

Tipherath: 3000,

Sparkling Hope:   and the true Self emerges.

Planetshpr:       <grinning at Hope>

Sparkling Hope:   Looks like I'm copying Planetshpr......    ; )

LizWeissma:       What is tthe experience like?

Rochelle adrift: really being able to see into the mirror is a

Rochelle adrift: quest worth taking

Planetshpr:       no, Hope, you are speaking truth. 

Planetshpr:       reporting experience.

Zamurito:   The ego will always be there....Sometimes "she" must be taken away from the controls....

Rochelle adrift: Zamurito, for sure

Tipherath: Zam...the ego as "she"?  Interesting.

Grazhopprr:       the ego can't die, it is you.  the ego needs to become the completeness of you, giving up of self

Rochelle adrift: nicely put, Graz

Planetshpr:       that may be, Graz... certainly I've never been able to kill the bugger off!!!

Tipherath: was really interested in where that thought might lead...

Planetshpr:       though I certainly have slowed it down on occasion!

RBCF 3000: Grazhopprr, maybe we are just flipping the polarity

RBCF 3000: of the ego, from false personality to True Self?

Rochelle adrift: LOL, Planet, you can rise above it

Grazhopprr:       the ego is only the human blinded side of you that was created by life here at this time

Zamurito:   Tiph, trying to stay on topic

Sparkling Hope:   Methinks sometimes that God needs to give us a dictionary to define the word "ego" in every

Sparkling Hope:   possible way.......LOLOL

REBKADVD81:       ego a "she".......laughn

Tipherath: Zam...and you were...well, sorta'

RBCF Heart:       to each ego is different

Grazhopprr:       3k, there is no false personality, only an ignorant side of you that is here now.

Sparkling Hope: each, God is different

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Rochelle adrift: ego allows the basis of fear to hold us back from

Rochelle adrift: true self, maybe?

Selph2000: the ego can be a wonderful friend..but a terriable

Sparkling Hope:   Naked I wuz born into this ole world.......naked I shall leave it.

Zamurito:   Selph, perfect!

REBKADVD81:       <<thinkn we place to much enphasis on labels and identities

Planetshpr:       Selph, in what definition of "ego" can it be a friend?

Rochelle adrift: that too, Selph

Starlight044:     the mind wants to label,,sort and file

RBCF 3000: REBKADVD, exactly!  What do we have left without any labels at all?

Grazhopprr:       people misunderstand the ego to be a negative side to destroy, it is you.

LizWeissma:       SELLPHHH 20000      THATS SO TRUE

Zamurito:   correct, graz

Planetshpr:       not in my definition, Graz.....  but obviously you have a different one.

Selph2000: Planet...that it does our bidding..and not vise versa

REBKADVD81:       RBC.....identity crisis........a mudd slide?

Starlight044:     the self

Zamurito:   yes, graz, but it becomes the master....

RBCF 3000: Grazhopprr, you don't distinguish between *I* and my projections, masks and intrigues?

Planetshpr:       I equate ego with "self" as opposed to "Self"

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DCizunas:   Graz, but in the end do we not have to grow past that "ego" to become one with the infinite?

Rochelle adrift: to move beyond the restrictions our ego places...

RBCF 3000: Planetshpr, then just who is Self?

Grazhopprr:       in order to give yourself freedom to learn blindly, you focus on here, build a personality

Starlight044:     planet now iam really confused

Planetshpr:       3K!!!  you have projections, masks and intrigues!!!  I am shocked!

Starlight044:     lol

REBKADVD81:       need a nature change to even look at the word ONE

ADOTH:      Does infinite have an ego????

Rochelle adrift: we cannot deny ego but we can become above what

RBCF 3000: REBKADVD, we always hit identity crisis before coming out the other side, right?

Rochelle adrift: ego would choose

Zamurito:   Graz, personality?

Planetshpr:       Self....  perhaps, 3K, Self is that which I was between the worlds.

Sparkling Hope: has been my experience that we are never NOT One with the Infinite.......we simply

Tipherath: excellent question

Sparkling Hope:   don't know it all the time.

Sparkling Hope:   How do you like that triple negative?

DCizunas:   Very true Hope

REBKADVD81:       RBC.....thinkn you might be right....we've done it hard way tho

Grazhopprr:       zam, personality, identity with the body, with pain, pleasure, etc.  the drive of being huma

RBCF 3000: Planetshpr, and still are, always will be, beginning and end, now & forever, right?

Zamurito:   Adoth, does infinite have a definition?

Planetshpr:       Self seems to be who I am when I....  "remember" ... rising above fear...  that which

ADOTH:      Zamurito, I am One with Infinite, I am One with Ego....

Zamurito:   Graz, okey dokey

Planetshpr:       Is/been/was/is...

Sparkling Hope:   {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{JLook}}}}}}}}}}}}}}

Tipherath: mean, "Does God have an ego?"

Sparkling Hope:   {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{ADOTH}}}}}}}}}}}}

RBCF 3000: ADOTH, I'm glad I'm not the only one!

Sparkling Hope:   wowzer.........I missed half my friends coming in.........

ADOTH:      Tipherath, no, I do not mean that....

REBKADVD81:       Tiph.....most obviously God does......since we are part of that name

Brahmasthiti:     very good question Tip

Tipherath: ADOTH, well, you should...

ADOTH:      I am One with God, God is One with me....

JLook91968:       {{{{{{{{{{Sparkling}}}}}}}}}}

Starlight044:     i agree reb

ADOTH:      Tipherath, No I should not.  I am One with All.

LizWeissma:       All things have an ego except god

Grazhopprr:       there is no need to negate the ego personality you.  it needs only to be woken up, bring in

Planetshpr:       what if we simply define ego as that which fears and lives in illusion?

RBCF 3000: ADOTH, "... and we are one happy fam-i-lee!"  says Barney

Grazhopprr:       the completeness

REBKADVD81: it.....can we watch your next real experience to see how much your One iss?

ADOTH:      (o:

Tipherath: ADOTH, but how can that be?  You exist!

ADOTH:      Well Put 3000.

ADOTH:      Tipherath, I Am....  I am Ego, I am Soul, I am One with God and All is God. 

Brahmasthiti:     You understand Grazzy

Tipherath: Trent...darned if I know, but it sure is a fun one...

RBCF 3000: TrentAngeL, we are wrapping up the 7th class on Ecstatic Awareness...

Sparkling Hope:   Every creature/object animate and inanimate is charged with the Cosmic Dust of the Infinite.

Planetshpr:       Watching to see if Adoth will create a new star... or even just a lil ole tree....

REBKADVD81:       ADOTH......look you're on candid camera......

Rochelle adrift: how wonderful we get to share all this like

Rochelle adrift: this...thank you 3000 for a wicked nifty topic

Selph2000: PPlanet...i see that..."self" as living within the five senses alone..while "Self"is  being

Grazhopprr:       we, as we are, contain all of the potential of our completeness left behind to be here

Tipherath: ADOTH, but you prove the opposite by your existence...strange, no?

RBCF 3000: TrentAngeL, tonight's theme is "Noticing the Miraculous nature of reality"

LizWeissma:         I am the beautiful daughter of god

TrentAngeL:       god makes up mass.

Selph2000: Awaken to who we really are

Sparkling Hope:   Therefore, the rocks sing........the waters babble, the flowers radiate.....


ADOTH:      Tipherath??? What do I have to prove???  I am One.

Tipherath: psst, ADOTH, oneness cannot exit

TrentAngeL:       mass makes up reality

Brahmasthiti:     hummm you lost me there Grazz?

TrentAngeL:       god force makes up reality

Rochelle adrift: I better go now, cheers and love to all:)))))) 

Sparkling Hope:   vibrant aliveness........

Rochelle adrift: Mystic too

Planetshpr:       ok, Selph... I can go with that.  It DOES take us to the question, however, as

RBCF Heart:       Liz, lower your caps please(2nd request)

ReneeRichard:     Hi room

Sparkling Hope:   Bye Rochelle

Planetshpr:       as to whether perception is reality.

Grazhopprr:       we have had hundreds of "ego",,,,hundreds of "personality", those are already in completenes

DCizunas:   Liz, is there any way you can not use all capital letters? (That's shouting)

TrentAngeL:       bye  roch

REBKADVD81: might be but with whom and what.......

Brahmasthiti:     okay

Sparkling Hope:   {{{{{{{{{{{Graz}}}}}}}}}}}}} have a beautiful mind......and 3000 seems to have a

Sparkling Hope:   way of bringing out the best in us at times......  ; )

TrentAngeL:       what makes up an ego ?

Tipherath: 3000...congrats, you've an audience and good talk, nice show my friend...

Planetshpr:       scroll up, Trent... it's what we're discussing....

Brahmasthiti:     now I undertstand, but are you sure you mean hundreds of egos?

ADOTH:      REB, one is only limited by the perceptions of Life.  If you distinguish, then that is your

Grazhopprr:       this personality is only one of hundreds, and needs to be melded with the others that we are

ADOTH:      limitations.

REBKADVD81: atom split.......adam and eve?

RBCF 3000: Sparkling Hope, shucks

Sparkling Hope:   {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{3000}}}}}}}}}}}}}}

Brahmasthiti:     or just the transition of ours?

Planetshpr:       Nice class, 3K!  Thanks!

REBKADVD81:       adoth.....i like tht ....yes....good answer

RBCF 3000: Planetshpr, do you think it would fly at the Center?

TrentAngeL:       atom split

Planetshpr:       personally, I do, 3K....  I continue to be attracted to the possibility.

Grazhopprr:       each ego is a singular event in time, like this one is here.  we think we are alone.

Sparkling Hope:   Everything is STILL at the center, 3000........sheeeesshh........

Tipherath: ADOTH...limitations = lack of knowledge (for humans)

TrentAngeL:       god force came  up w/ atom slipping so we wouldn't know his plans

Starlight044:     hi sage

Selph2000: Planet..our reality is totally determine by our perception of what we think our lives are

Grazhopprr:       but the completeness of our spirit contains all of them at once.

ADOTH:      Tipherath, well said.

Planetshpr:       (Hope, he meant a specific Center)

Brahmasthiti:     okay I understand what you are saying Grazz

Tipherath: 3000, nice roll

Sparkling Hope:   Planet.......yes.......I thought so........I was j/k and he missed it......

Planetshpr:       ours IS, Selph...  next question is.... is there an OBJECTIVE reality?

Starlight044:     ain't that just like god trent?

Sparkling Hope:   I've come a long way with this dude.

REBKADVD81:       trent....ya thinkn so.........Ancient false aeons fathers

Planetshpr:       ;-)

RBCF 3000: Planetshpr, that's why I capitalized it

TrentAngeL:       Star...tricky fella/force an''t he...hehe

Planetshpr:       3K...  we'll talk....

ADOTH:      ((((DCizunas)))))))

Grazhopprr:       as there is no time, we are living countless "ego"s at once, this is only the one we are now

Sparkling Hope:   What a lovely woman/spirit that is.........

Brahmasthiti:     Grazz you are aware of the Essence behind who we think we are?

REBKADVD81:       <<thinkn i will bypass ego plane and go to the next movie

Starlight044:     wow graz

Grazhopprr:       jesus spoke of his "father" in heaven, he was refering to his own source of existance

TrentAngeL:       we ponder ponder waste time till we die, then know the BIG Answer

RBCF 3000: Grazhopprr, the only reason I can say "this one" is

RBCF 3000: this one, is because I am at a flat energetic-- the

RBCF 3000: second I begin to awaken, the others appear, no?

Tipherath: ADOTH...therefore human beings do not yet

Tipherath: "grasp" (know) that bigotry is counter-productive

Tipherath: in the long run...but I'm off topic

Selph2000: Planet...i think so..that why there's always room for expansion in my reality

Planetshpr:       me too, Selph... that's my experience also...

Selph2000: <~~ open at the top

ADOTH:      Tipherath, as One thinks, so One is....

RBCF 3000: Grazhopprr, would you say that Jesus is a special

RBCF 3000: case, being formed intentionally out of the Virgin

RBCF 3000: Matrix?

Grazhopprr:       3k, you can experience "the others" anytime you open to that level

Grazhopprr:       3k, rumors, lol

Planetshpr:       "Virgin Matrix?"  wow.

Tipherath: ADOTH...spoken like a heroin addict I'm afraid

Zamurito:   Graz, good point

RBCF 3000: Grazhopprr, so it seems.  Then "this one" is pretty arbitrary, right?

Cliffvines:       RBCF, what do u know about Jesus?

ADOTH:      ???  Never done the stuff, didn't need to do it.

Grazhopprr:       lots of rumours of Jesus's origin, doesn't matter

TrentAngeL:       ideas ideas ideas

Sparkling Hope:   uh oh.........judgement time is coming.........I can just feel it.........

TrentAngeL:       thats whats so 'bout them...noone dies over an idea..its beliefs that cause war and death

REBKADVD81:       cliff...wy you ask such a question?

Grazhopprr:       woke cliffvines up, heh

RBCF 3000: Cliffvines, I channel Jesus, <He> appears in my

RBCF 3000: visions, <He> directs me to Source. Does that do it?

Cliffvines:       I'm very interested in Jesus

TrentAngeL:       I don't know how close Jesus is to the  GForce

Brahmasthiti:     really 3000?

Sparkling Hope:   oh boy......private time?  we can request that with the teachers?

Sparkling Hope:   wowzer

ADOTH:      Selph2000, Light and Love to your Spirit as well...  (o:  May your ego be unigeoic.

TrentAngeL:       maybe not as close as "son" as he gets cerdited

TrentAngeL:       maybe..

Grazhopprr:       the only reason i brought up jesus was to explain his perspective from his own personal

Grazhopprr:       christ

TrentAngeL:       It just dosen't feel right

Sparkling Hope:   unigeoic?  hmmmmm...... sounds like a disease

RBCF 3000: Brahmasthiti, 'fraid so, and I didn't even ask for it-- I was Jewish to start with.

Brahmasthiti:     I would like to know more 3000

Tipherath: ADOTH...sheesh...ego's are what is talking here, not perfect people

Cliffvines:       Whatever we search for Jesus (Christ) is the ultimate reality, Hes all we search for

TrentAngeL:       Tip...balance is hard to have when there is debate

Grazhopprr:       "my father" to jesus was his own personal creator source, his christ, or which he is a part

Planetshpr:       3K... I had a similar experience and I'm Jewish also...

Sparkling Hope:   Cliff........and he taught that the kingdom of heaven is within........have you looked there

ADOTH:      Tiperath, what has Perfect to do with anything, whose perception of Perfect are you using???

LizWeissma:       when i graduate  kindergarten then you shall have it adios

TrentAngeL:       it comes, it gose

Planetshpr:       Do you think He visits a lot of jews?

Planetshpr:       <grin>

Tipherath: ADOTH...respectfully, it's your ego I'm listening to at the moment, filled with a "cause"/

TrentAngeL:       there is never a perfect person..only blanced

Cliffvines:       Yes, His kingdom is wherever He is, He also said I & the FAther are one,

Brahmasthiti:     hehehe

Planetshpr:       Hey!  True story!!!!  ::indignantly!!::  and I was NOT smoking anything!

ADOTH:      Tiperath, I am listening to me when I listen to you.

REBKADVD81: if you know this Jesus do you know his bride as well?

Tipherath: ADOTH...then let me say this, I enjoy talking to ya'...

Cliffvines:       Yes

Sparkling Hope:   Aloha Clarity

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Grazhopprr:       any jesus that you come in contact with is your own christ perspective in form

ADOTH:      Tipherath, can not two blooms or more be on the same branch???  Yet is it not one branch?

REBKADVD81:       cliff....and do you know him from within the kingdom...or just baby jesus or the man jesus

Tipherath: But ADOTH, the average person never hears themself talking to themself

Brahmasthiti:     but you may be right

Claritybay:       jesus is one of my mentors

Planetshpr:       does the Son see himself shining? <grin>

ADOTH:      A wise ole owl, sat on an oak....

Grazhopprr:       the "jesus" man that lived here on earth is on his own, doing his own thing, as we are

Brahmasthiti:     we will see

Sparkling Hope:   Excellent question, Planet...... I do know that the earth sees the moon absorb the heat of

Cliffvines:       I know Jesus who humbled Himself to be born in a barn as well as the triumphant King who wil

REBKADVD81:       thinkn a lot of people are really being set up....

Cliffvines:       l hold all accountable

Tipherath: ADOTH...I see, you've a cliff-edge point of awareness...nice, good...

ADOTH:      Tiperath, can on one person hear the voices of humanity looking into the mirror?

MLR614:     Hi, everyone.  I've been listening to all the great chat, very interesting. 

Brahmasthiti:     lol cliff hold yourself accountable

Sparkling Hope:   the sun to spare the earth.......Living in that awareness, the earth is green with loving

So so Rus: looks like a very indepth chat tonight

Sparkling Hope:   intent.

Sparkling Hope:   ; )

SEEKNGSTUD:       <-- I knew this was gonna be a jesus chat!

Cliffvines:       not big enufff

Tipherath: So so...been fun

Brahmasthiti:     true


Grazhopprr:       seeky, my fault this time, rofl

Brahmasthiti:     very true

RBCF 3000: Well, friends-- you seem to be doing just fine, and I

RBCF 3000: need to mellow out. I'll see you all next Monday. 

RBCF 3000: Thanks for your wonderful contributions! 

Claritybay:       jesus was avery wonderful teacher

Planetshpr:       not OUR fault Seekng!!

Planetshpr:       LOL!

Sparkling Hope:   {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{3000}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}  Thank you for you.

FoxesTruth:       oh darn it's over

ADOTH:      ((((((3000)))))))<  Light and Love....

So so Rus: yeah its over!

Zamurito:   Thanks 3k.

REBKADVD81:       a master......jesus

Brahmasthiti:     that is true Clarity

RBCF 3000: FoxesTruth, it's not over when I leave, I hope

Tipherath: 3000...during your "sessions" the screen does move along...very nice, good for you

REBKADVD81:       one of many

Selph2000: humaainity is our mirrowlol

MLR614:     Perhaps ego and judgement are one in the same, and  the very  thing that blinds us

Tipherath: Foxie?

Grazhopprr:       blame me, i studied him for years from my inside out.  he's my example to follow

So so Rus: its over when u leave troi

FoxesTruth:       3000.........the scheduled chat is......

Tipherath: The real one?

Cliffvines:       Clarity, do u know the basis of what Jesus taught?

Claritybay:       yes jesus is certainly a master

FoxesTruth: there any other??

Grazhopprr:       hope, the jesus chat here, lol

Claritybay:       there is only one thing to teach-love

FoxesTruth:       Wonderful Brahm.........and you my dear?

Tipherath: 3000...hey, don't expose the're tipping over a Tarot card in that

Brahmasthiti:     lol riding the waves of the ocean

Cliffvines:       Clarity, He taught that He was the only way, truth, life the only way to the Father

ANU777:     are we all now healed?

Brahmasthiti:     not so Cliff

AlazareanCrimson:       clarity

Tipherath: It would figure, 3000, that the best topic-driven

Tipherath: chat host would have the most critics...

Grazhopprr:       cliff, he was speaking in 1st person as the christ, not as jesus the only way

Cliffvines:       Look in John, BRahm

Blue woofs:       so this is how the other half lives...:O)

RBCF 3000: Tipherath, I would love to meet such a one

Planetshpr:       a man SHOULD be known by his enemies and critics, eh?

Galaxon:    foxes we are depraved

Tipherath: Even the Galaxon would agree...hehe...and hi...

ANU777:     anyone been dreaming more than usual?????????

Brahmasthiti:     cliff what did Jesus tell the one that asked hime what it took to go to heaven?

Claritybay:       i do not agree with you cliff he taught much more than that in fact he tought look within fo

Claritybay:       for god

REBKADVD81:       anu..yes.....

Zamurito:   Yes, Anu....

Blue woofs: town ain't seen rain in soooo long..Fresburg

ANU777:     REB driving me NUTS

Sparkling Hope:   Be like a little child.......     <warm smiles>!!!!!!!!!!!

HOST LFST Mystic:       ANU... there has been a planetary aspect to Neptune

Galaxon:    Jesus told him..."it takes $3 for toll"

Sparkling Hope:   There's a planetary aspect to everything.........

HOST LFST Mystic:       lol Hope

Cliffvines:       He asked the man to give up his idol of money, setttling the issue of who is Lord

RBCF 3000: FoxesTruth, I live in CAlifornia, didn't see any rain. 

Brahmasthiti:     the Pharisee like you?

RBCF 3000: BTW, CA is not a place at all, just a federal fiction

RBCF 3000: to subscribe us to the graduated tax.

ANU777:     Mystic........animal imagery....then all these old lovers..sweet Jesus

PDBLUE13:   Thanks for the greet Truth

FoxesTruth:       ah in Fairfield then

HOST LFST Mystic:       <g> Anu    sounds like fun

RBCF 3000: Good night, friends. <poof>