Ecstatic Awareness Class 11
"Our Psychic Connection to Everything"
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Galaxon: 3000 whacha got in store today?
RochelleDo: welcome 3000, lovely to see you
RBCF 3000: Welcome, everyone. Tonight is our eleventh
RBCF 3000: class in Ecstatic Awareness: "What is it that
RBCF 3000: psychically connects us to everything? Can we
RBCF 3000: gain control over it?"
Tipherath: 3K's gonna tune us all into ourselves, right 3000?....hehe
Sendee66: what is ecastacic?
RochelleDo: well I hope to, 3000
Galaxon: 3000 i am sorry..but isnt that just the experience of oneness?
RBCF 3000: Once again, for those who are joining us for the
RBCF 3000: first time, the way we are using the word
RBCF 3000: "ecstatic" here means entering into states of
RBCF 3000: consciousness, accompanied by transformation
RBCF 3000: of being, in which the supernatural and the
RBCF 3000: Miraculous can be witnessed and experienced
RBCF 3000: directly.
Sunglo001: if I could spell I could answer that in one word...concsciousness
RochelleDo: well done, Sun
Tipherath: (3K, sex?)
RochelleDo: no sex, Tip
Galaxon: 3000 so how do we do it?
RBCF 3000: Tipherath, maybe next year we might get into sexual energies and their alchemies.
Sunglo001: next year!!
Galaxon: this must be my class then
RochelleDo: mine too
Tipherath: 3K...you know I'm with ya'...you go...
RBCF 3000: Ok, friends, let's begin tonight's class: "What is
RBCF 3000: it that psychically connects us to everything?"
RBCF 3000: Most of us have been taught, or at least
RBCF 3000: guessed, that a psychic connection is
RBCF 3000: something like a radio signal, linking stations or
RBCF 3000: receivers together.
RBCF 3000: And in practice, it pretty much works out that
RBCF 3000: way -- a psychic or healer often feels that they
RBCF 3000: are tuning in to the person's frequency, and
RBCF 3000: either receiving messages from their
RBCF 3000: subconscious or transmitting balancing and
RBCF 3000: healing waves to them.
RBCF 3000: .
RBCF 3000: It might not be a person -- it could be, for
RBCF 3000: example, a place where some strong event
RBCF 3000: happened, as with ghost or UFO hunters, or an
RBCF 3000: object, like a sorcerer's stone or a saint's relic,
RBCF 3000: that has had a mysterious message or some
RBCF 3000: magical power stored into it.
RBCF 3000: It might be an attunement into a past life or a
RBCF 3000: parallel reality, as well, which would get rather
RBCF 3000: sci-fi in its practice.
RBCF 3000: .
Sunglo001: same thing, tho, yes?
RBCF 3000: Sunglo, pretty much-- just a little more, tho ...............
RBCF 3000: In such a metaphor or paradigm, "control" might
RBCF 3000: mean to read the other person's thoughts or
RBCF 3000: physical condition more accurately, or to
RBCF 3000: influence them through purely mental channels.
RBCF 3000: Or to learn to wield the power in a crystal or a
RBCF 3000: vortex. In any event, it is taken as something
RBCF 3000: that we do to, or receive from, some external
RBCF 3000: person, place or event, even if the "event" lies
RBCF 3000: in some other dimension.
RBCF 3000: ****** Here would be a good place to stop
RBCF 3000: and ask you all how you describe psychic
RBCF 3000: events or practices that you have known. Go
RBCF 3000: right ahead now, please ............
AngelsChild31: I am connected To The angels
Sunglo001: I want to know what you meant by influence?
AngelsChild31: I am very connected To my grandma
Galaxon: since i have no pyschic ability, i'd say no description is available
AngelsChild31: she has passed to The other side
Sendee66: <^^ dont think I have any
RBCF 3000: Sunglo, "influence" is just a catch-all word for "acting from a distance"
Sunglo001: because there is no such thing as time or boundaries on dimensions, except those that
Sunglo001: we create...all things are available
MoMolly2: how about tellign someone u love them telepathically and they put their finger in their ear
Sendee66: just connected to one guy....I seem to know when he is going to be some where
RBCF 3000: Galaxon, or at least, none that you have described to yourself that way yet, maybe?
Galaxon: 3000 zero at all
AngelsChild31: I feel connected to some people as well
Galaxon: molly wax in ear?
Tipherath: no Q's, 3K...why not kick that mule
MoMolly2: nope gal
DEEDAILEY: I have sent messages to my son, and he'd call a bit later, and say "OK..what's up?"
RochelleDo: I am merely at the sychronicity stage where I am
RochelleDo: beginning to believe...
AngelsChild31: Like a spiritual bound or connection
BeadBaron: RB I am a psychic no belles & whistles just quiet knowing
RBCF 3000: Sunglo, right-- that is my main point tonight, that there is a
RBCF 3000: lot of power in defining reality differently, and fluidly.
Sunglo001: because we can only accept so much at different times in our lives
RBCF 3000: Tipherath, I'd rather offer the mule a carrot or a sugar cube
RochelleDo: and yet I now know I knew it...
Tipherath: 3K...never worked with mules then, have you?...lol
RBCF 3000: BeadBaron, how did you first know you were?
Sunglo001: as we grow... we grow.
Galaxon: 3K...are you gonna give us techniques to feel oneness?
RBCF 3000: Sunglo, how much, though?
MoMolly2: I just want LOgic
Sunglo001: as much as you can for where you are in your understanding.
Sunglo001: everyone is different
RBCF 3000: Galaxon, not just "feel", but *see* it.
BeadBaron: As a child I knew things would happen thot everyone did
Gollywow5: I "feel" things in a quiet but sure way as i feel the wind or sunshine and know it to be
RochelleDo: I wish it wasnt so late .... I hate leaving!!!
Galaxon: 3K wow...when i can smell it, i'll have it made
RBCF 3000: MoMolly, inductive or deductive? Digital or analog logic?
MoMolly2: just plain logic
Sunglo001: lol ~ get your cell phone
Tipherath: Gala...nope, when you can eat it, you have it made
Tipherath: (no sexual pun intended, but lol that it was
Kirstenese: Golly, that's a nice way to put it
RBCF 3000: RochelleDo, then why not arrive instead?
RochelleDo: omg, 3000...:))))
Gollywow5: I "feel" things even now emanting from those in room
RBCF 3000: MoMolly, do you mean rationality? Normal categories?
RBCF 3000: Because this class is all about *breaking* all those old
RBCF 3000: patterns so we can witness the miraculous nature of
RBCF 3000: existence.
RochelleDo: that is why I love being present, Golly
Tipherath: Gala...but when you "eat" something, it becomes a part of you...was my meaning...
Galaxon: tip if what i eat i become...that means.....
Tipherath: Gala, I was merely riding your metaphores
MoMolly2: RBCF.... i just would like to not be delusional.. have a knowing , and not question
Sunglo001: but if you didn't question, how could you grow?
Tipherath: Gala...you virgin you...
Jewlcraft: a knowing without explanation
Dolly Destiny1: like standing on the beach, the channel changes and now you are standing on the hill side..
Grazhopprr: i learn so much here
MoMolly2: yes jewls thanks
Jewlcraft: that's what it sometimes feels like
BeadBaron: I know what I know I just don't know how it works
Tipherath: Heart...returning my ears to 3K
Sunglo001: agreed, Jewl
RBCF 3000: BeadBaron, you may have some ideas about how it works, if
RBCF 3000: you journey with us for a while.
Grazhopprr: if we understood how it works, we would not be here
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BeadBaron: Thanks Rb i'm listening please go forward
RochelleDo: or we can build on it, Graz
Sunglo001: does it matter HOW it works?
RBCF 3000: Grazhopprr, or we would be teaching, right?
Dolly Destiny1: no
Galaxon: 3K the galaxonman is ready for some basic procedures on doing this stuff
RochelleDo: the "how" is in the "knowing"
MoMolly2: im looking for inner truth.. why i allowed myself to question
Grazhopprr: brb,,,,,,laundry, heh
RochelleDo: maybe dont think too much, MoMolly?
JDRED1406: No, Sun; it really doesn't matter how it works. Only that we have the ability and exercise
Sunglo001: because you would be "dead in the water" if you didn't question, Mo.
RBCF 3000: All right, friends, let's continue on with tonight's subject.
RBCF 3000: Please hold comments for a minute or two while I roll this
RBCF 3000: puppy out .............................................................
RBCF 3000: Now I am going to introduce a different paradigm for all
RBCF 3000: these psychic and magical events. First of all, and this idea
RBCF 3000: won't be totally new to a lot of you, we are NOT separate,
RBCF 3000: no more than the fingers of a hand or the leaves of a tree.
RBCF 3000: If my fingers each thought that it was some kind of
RBCF 3000: "individual" with "free will," my hand would quickly become
RBCF 3000: totally useless to me.
RBCF 3000: .
RBCF 3000: But fortunately, my fingers have submitted their "will" to a
RBCF 3000: Higher Authority (me!) and I can create delicate and
RBCF 3000: sublime intricacies with them, working in perfect harmony.
RBCF 3000: Do I need to resort to "psychic powers" or some "aether" to
RBCF 3000: explain how my fingers know what each other is doing, and
RBCF 3000: what each one is supposed to do?
RBCF 3000: .
RochelleDo: wonderful analogy, 3000
RBCF 3000: Obviously not. Now all I have to do is give you a good
RBCF 3000: enough justification for extending this simplistic metaphor to
RBCF 3000: ourselves and our world.
RBCF 3000: I have to admit that I didn't really believe this idea either,
RBCF 3000: for the longest time, until finally I could no longer escape
RBCF 3000: the synchronicities and gaps that I kept running into.
RBCF 3000: .
RBCF 3000: I didn't even believe in myself as a psychic until there were
RBCF 3000: too many times that I had "nailed" an image or event with
RBCF 3000: people that I had never known before, so much that they
RBCF 3000: would start sobbing at a memory they thought they had
RBCF 3000: buried, or some difficulty they were trying not to deal with.
RBCF 3000: I still don't like making predictions for people, I suppose
RBCF 3000: because I feel like I am somehow *causing* the event to
RBCF 3000: happen that way.
RBCF 3000: .
RBCF 3000: But instead of having to go around saying, "Gosh, ain't this
RBCF 3000: weird," or "I don't know how I could have known that," I get
RBCF 3000: to go around with a model of reality more like a weaving or
RBCF 3000: a tapestry, wherein all the figures and designs in the fabric
RBCF 3000: are composed of exactly the same threads as each other:
RBCF 3000: the same red thread in each of us, the same white one, etc.
RBCF 3000: .
RBCF 3000: Another way that I like thinking of this is a hologram. You're
RBCF 3000: all familiar with the the 2-dimensional holograms on credit
RBCF 3000: cards that hold enough different variations of an image that
RBCF 3000: it looks animated if you hold and move the card the right
RBCF 3000: way,
RBCF 3000: and if you go to any science museum, they'll usually have a
RBCF 3000: 3-dimensional image that changes as you walk around it.
RBCF 3000: .
RBCF 3000: One of my favorite properties of a hologram is that, if you
RBCF 3000: cut it or break it up into many small pieces, each piece
RBCF 3000: contains the entire image as the original, just smaller.
RBCF 3000: So I envision some kind of hologram of many dimensions, each of which is conscious.
RBCF 3000: ****** I'd love to hear what kinds of synchronicites,
RBCF 3000: paradoxes or unexplainable gaps have forced you to re-
RBCF 3000: examine your opinion of "normal reality," or any questions
RBCF 3000: you might have about what I am describing here. Go right
RBCF 3000: ahead now, please. ..................................
JDRED1406: The more we question things, the more we learn and understand.
MoMolly2: you mean like feeling in sinc with someone.. like at work.. same wavelength? that means you are
Sunglo001: that would be us humans
RochelleDo: exactly...it is wondrous...
Jewlcraft: the only thing that really separates each of us from the other is our own free will
RBCF 3000: Sunglo, which part would be "human"?
Galaxon: 3K i apologize for being so un-metaphysical..but i have had none
Mui Turtle: could you repeat that request
RBCF 3000: Jewlcraft, that was my question-- can we truly believe in
RBCF 3000: the rightness of our "free will"?
Jewlcraft: define "rightness"
Gollywow5: 3k I am reminded much right now of the"Celestine Phrophecy" book
Jewlcraft: it wouldnt be there if it wasnt "right"
RBCF 3000: Galaxon, how about just, "What do these examples make you think of?"
Mui Turtle: 3000 are you a holegram ?
RBCF 3000: Gollywow, I think that book has a lot of examples about this, right.
MoMolly2: this is a little deep for me
Galaxon: 3k.....welll..like when i looked at my plate and the steak told me to not eat it?
MoMolly2: plain english
Wewachanpi: 3K..much is predetermined , how we work it out is our free will...sound right?
MoMolly2: no masters here
Sunglo001: 3K ~ the holagram broken into pieces.. all showing the whole
RBCF 3000: Mui Turtle, I/you/we/God-are-the-hologram, is how I'd put it.
JerryAtrix000: I agree with wewa
Mui Turtle: how do you know that 3000
MoMolly2: i understood the annology with the broken pieces..
Writers Curse: I was comparing your analogy of the hologram to tangrams, where different shapes are made
Writers Curse: from the same pieces.
Dolly Destiny1: all this is, is the hologram, the universe, became conscious. & look with that conscious.
RBCF 3000: Galaxon, you have to be nice to your steak before it will let you eat it.
Wewachanpi: too much thought , heart has to feel
MoMolly2: and your orka mike.. remember that!
MoMolly2: i am all emotion
MoMolly2: thats why i seek logic
RBCF 3000: Sunglo, sounds right-- each human would then be a "shard" of the hologram, eh?
Dolly Destiny1: we can look WITH that conscious of the universe that became conscious
Wewachanpi: how can spirit create when the thought processes get in the way of natural events?
RBCF 3000: Writers Curse, where could I see examples of "tangrams"?
Gollywow5: I feel more like its a rubic cube and getting in touch with Pyshic abilitys helps to align
Sunglo001: 3k ~ yup :) ~ that's why the term "mirroring" (sp?)
JerryAtrix000: all these shapes to ponder upon
Gollywow5: the cube in its proper rows of color coordinations
Writers Curse: Tangrams are used in elementary schools to teach kids different ways of perceiving the same objects, RBCF.
RBCF 3000: Dolly Destiny, my idea is that each piece is inherently conscious-- just has to wake up.
RBCF 3000: Sunglo, you bet!
MoMolly2: ok I'm awake... why hasn't it come yet?
Gollywow5: a combination of what is phyisacl and hat is determined by free choices of free willed peopl
Dolly Destiny1: 3000 i have no idea why some did not wake up.
Mui Turtle: since we are allowed freedom to express what we think about something ask, i would say we
Zamurito: MoMolly, are you awake, or just having a realization?
Mui Turtle: are into speculations here.
RBCF 3000: MoMolly, *Awake* doesn't say, "Ok, I'm awake, but I don't
RBCF 3000: see." *Awake* says, "I-am-awake-and-I-see-with-you-
RBCF 3000: God-all-one"
Zamurito: Yes, 3k, what you said
RBCF 3000: Dolly Destiny, each one awakens when it has a flux of
RBCF 3000: energy to do it with. Awakeness is ecstatic energy.
Mui Turtle: "I ,we, god, 3000 all holograms 2 of which you cannot honestly say for sure are there only 1
Mui Turtle: yourself
RBCF 3000: Mui Turtle, what?
Sunglo001: we are all at different levels of awareness.. and then also perceive that awareness through
Sunglo001: our own eyes
Wewachanpi: yes.... SUNGLO...thats it!
MoMolly2: so is it gonna take me a life time to finally see?
Sunglo001: Mo ~ you see as you see now. Let it happen.
Gollywow5: no Momolly each sees according to their need and gifts
RBCF 3000: Sunglo, my idea is that each of us is God-at-different-
RBCF 3000: perspectives-in-the-hologram-all-equal.
Wewachanpi: all levels of understandings , 1 for each to explore in his way
BeadBaron: MO many lifetimes
Dolly Destiny1: 3000 all it takes is being more Alive....use our emotions
Gollywow5: and desire to see
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RBCF 3000: MoMolly, we work at it for lifetimes, but we *see* in a moment, see?
Sunglo001: 3k ~ of course we are equal. I was where you were, he was were I am going to be, I am where
Sunglo001: they will be
MoMolly2: cause life is short..
Sunglo001: doesn't matter.. it's all the same.
RBCF 3000: Sunglo, but then where does he sit when the music stops?
Mui Turtle: and it just does not pay to think of it much now does it
Sunglo001: LOL ~ I don't know.. but I'm in the chair! LOL
MoMolly2: getting a head ache
RBCF 3000: Dolly Destiny, absolutely-- we'll be getting to the kind of
RBCF 3000: emotions that take us to specific realities.
Galaxon: Molly why?
Dolly Destiny1: 3000, ok,
Galaxon: 3000...let me see....emotions are the attractors of what?
MoMolly2: this is actually all new to me guys.. only 3 years old new age time
RBCF 3000: Dolly Destiny, that is precisely why most religions have so
RBCF 3000: much emotional content- they were engineered to produce
RBCF 3000: states for witnessing Divine Presence, although most have
RBCF 3000: forgotten how and why.
Gollywow5: similar emotions
Wewachanpi: its okay Mo...youll find the way
BeadBaron: I can only do readings if totally detached
Trees my love: Emotions are so much ego
MoMolly2: thanks hope so
Sunglo001: that's cuz there are too many rules attached to it, 3K
RBCF 3000: Galaxon, all emotions are precisely the attractors of
RBCF 3000: realities. That's why it is so important to project love,
RBCF 3000: forgiveness, gratitude and humility-- takes us to the
RBCF 3000: highest we can get to.
Mui Turtle: Wew think i will find the way too?
Trees my love: ego clouds remembering
MoMolly2: no emotions are love, anger, frustration etc
RBCF 3000: Trees my love, there are very different kinds of "emotions"
Wewachanpi: u will... every one percieives differently thats what its all about
Dolly Destiny1: religions remove emotions from the masses. stops human divine magic.
Mui Turtle: what is the way first
Galaxon: 3000 that is wha conversations with God says,too
Wewachanpi: sure MUI
Wewachanpi: i will to one dday.. every day is growth
RBCF 3000: MoMolly, in my paradigm, most of those are not emotions at
RBCF 3000: all, but stories that we keep telling ourselves to justify a
RBCF 3000: point of view.
Galaxon: 3K are those macros or are you a fast typing fiend? hehe
Mui Turtle: Wew just so they do not ask me to get on a flaming ship flying through skies
Gollywow5: 3k right on!
RBCF 3000: Galaxon, right now I am just typing fast.
MoMolly2: ok so my life is a lie RBCF?
RBCF 3000: MoMolly, and mine, and his, and theirs-- all illusion.
Mui Turtle: lol that is no way towards the way
RBCF 3000: ... all dream.
Wewachanpi: oh come on could be fun!
Trees my love: so many forms of emotion, how many forms of ego?
MoMolly2: if you pinch me do i not ouch?
Sunglo001: no, Mo... your life is NOT a lie... it is YOUR perception... and everyone is at different
Sunglo001: aspects of persception
RBCF 3000: Mui Turtle, why not? That is exactly what I intend to do!
Galaxon: if i pinch her i go ouch when she slaps me
Gollywow5: as the aborgines of Au say this is the dream the real world is to come
Damp Bunny: heheh gala
MoMolly2: wacks MIke
Mui Turtle: 3000 why do i not doubt that from you
Wewachanpi: galax...good one!
RBCF 3000: MoMolly, I've had dreams where I proved in many ways that I was *awake* in them.
Wewachanpi: thats about levels of consiousness 3K
Sunglo001: i bet
Trees my love: oh dear, have to go
MoMolly2: RBCF.. i am genuinely courious.. not tryiong to make a mockery
RBCF 3000: Gollywow, not exactly "yet to come", but parallel, or enfolding, like an onion.
MoMolly2: i seek understanding
Mui Turtle: 3000 do you think we actually ever went and walked on the moon?
Mui Turtle: or was that a trickery holographic image
RBCF 3000: MoMolly, I appreciate your comments and questions.
Sunglo001: onion ~ a peeling away
Damp Bunny: it was a studio
Damp Bunny: moon studio
Galaxon: 3000 to whom did you prove this?
RBCF 3000: Mui Turtle, not to my own personal witnessing, so I hold that open.
RBCF 3000: Galaxon, to everyone in the "room" with me, in the dream.
MoMolly2: well we had all better wake up
Galaxon: 3000 oh...they were all dream figures. jehova's witnesses>?)
Wewachanpi: hahahah heheh...galx
MoMolly2: how about new beginnings?
Dolly Destiny1: 3000, i go with you sharing of the dream, i too experince those dreams.
RBCF 3000: Galaxon, they were all adepts.
MoMolly2: thanks everyone
Mui Turtle: some hologram
RBCF 3000: Dolly Destiny, I thought you did.
Galaxon: 3000 you mean you had dream links?
MoMolly2: its been interesting
Gollywow5: 144,000 choir then gala
Grazhopprr: adept at what
Sunglo001: thank you, Molly
Wewachanpi: going MO?
MoMolly2: yes wew
RBCF 3000: Galaxon, more than links-- we went into telepathic rapport,
RBCF 3000: and performed things like telekinesis and levitation.
Sunglo001: See ~ not everyone is at the same level.. we have to be able to communicate
Sunglo001: at the level to which the person is that we speak to... if
Galaxon: 3K i thought you told me you never felt oneness
Mui Turtle: Sunglo you go girl
Writers Curse: Sun, the common denominator?
Sunglo001: No... just that you have to remember from which you came, and be able to speak at the
Sunglo001: level to communicate to someone who is trying to grow
Mui Turtle: horizontal or vertical growth Sun?
Sunglo001: If you speak way beyond their messure, they get frustrated.
Wewachanpi: Sun <you are so right-on!!
RBCF 3000: Galaxon, for when I said I didn't feel oneness-- do you
RBCF 3000: mean when I said we'll also *see* it?
Writers Curse: Sun, so it's like nuturing them, so they can in turn nurture someone else.
Grazhopprr: theories are nice, aren't they
Sunglo001: yes, Writers
Sunglo001: Graz ~ it ain't a theory.. if that was directed to what I said.
RBCF 3000: Sunglo, usually they just ignore it, or they may present irrelevant arguments.
Gollywow5: the desriptions of thier reality is what bars most from "understanding"
Sunglo001: 3k ~ ya don't know if ya don't work with em
Mui Turtle: 3000 there you messed up , everything is relevant
Gollywow5: thier egos can't take the awakening and don't want to accept another truth other then what
RBCF 3000: Mui Turtle, where?
Gollywow5: they ahve built it to be
Mui Turtle: there
Mui Turtle: where else
Sunglo001: Golly ~ very untrue.. or they wouldn't be seeking
Sunglo001: something within tells them to ask, to question.. even if they don't understand
BeadBaron: I was hoping for an intelligent conversation!!!!!
Gollywow5: they r genrally seeking first from "need"
Grazhopprr: < was a seeker, grew out of it
Mui Turtle: tickles the brain
Sunglo001: at this point and time.. you may be planting a seed.. make sure it is a good one.
Sunglo001: Graz ~ you have learned to filter.. that's the differnce
Writers Curse: So a sense of imbalance causes them to seek out whatever is missing.
Wewachanpi: egos Bead
Grazhopprr: sunny, nah, just gave up hearing nice theories, heh,,,,,,just a watcher now
RBCF 3000: And now, friends, for the exciting conclusion of tonight's
RBCF 3000: lesson -- "How to gain control over our psychic abilities and
RBCF 3000: connections" although, if we operate from this last
RBCF 3000: perspective I've offered here, we might have to ask, "How
RBCF 3000: can we integrate with the consciousnesses of an n-th
RBCF 3000: dimensional self-reflexive hologram?"
RBCF 3000: .
RBCF 3000: I've made "consciousness" plural here because I see each
RBCF 3000: "weaving" of it as an archetypal consciousness; that is,
RBCF 3000: each point of view of it, of our life experience, can properly
RBCF 3000: be regarded as a specific consciousness--
RBCF 3000: an archetype, in a sense. Most of the pagan, Hindu, Greek,
RBCF 3000: Egyptian, Roman, Norse and tribal pantheons of deities
RBCF 3000: have been such archetypes: the god of War, the goddess
RBCF 3000: of hunting, the god of good penmanship, I suppose.
RBCF 3000: .
RBCF 3000: Now in this new model, each of these "gods" is now a
RBCF 3000: thread of our tapestry, the one in which each and all of our
RBCF 3000: life experiences is woven.
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RBCF 3000: To each of these gods is ascribed immortal powers and
RBCF 3000: knowledge of various kinds, so each of those now becomes
RBCF 3000: available to us, if we know how to invoke them and then
RBCF 3000: wield them.
RBCF 3000: .
RBCF 3000: I notice that we have a huge body of literature and film
RBCF 3000: about what happens from dark or ignorant misuse of
RBCF 3000: supernatural power, and these tales have always intrigued
RBCF 3000: us.
RBCF 3000: Almost always, the solution offered is to "make it go away"
RBCF 3000: either by killing off the sorcerers or the observers, or by
RBCF 3000: having the witnesses forget or wander off into seclusion.
RBCF 3000: .
RBCF 3000: It is very rare that we are told or shown examples of the
RBCF 3000: integrity, humility and discipline that it takes to adopt our
RBCF 3000: powers in an integrated way, as part of who and what we
RBCF 3000: are.
RBCF 3000: We normally attribute that to saints and martyrs, very far
RBCF 3000: from what any of us would consider doing ourselves, at
RBCF 3000: least until we take too much Prozac and go berserk.
RBCF 3000: ****** Well, friends, those are the ideas that I'd like you
RBCF 3000: to think about for yourselves. Now let's hear your questions
RBCF 3000: and comments. Go right ahead now, please.
RBCF 3000: ....................................
Mui Turtle: 3000 dark and ignorant are judgements , a hologram doesn't know how unless guided by mind
RBCF 3000: Mui Turtle, exactly true.
Wewachanpi: this is way too much
Wewachanpi: Agree with u MUI
RBCF 3000: <-- also agrees with MUI
Dolly Destiny1: <---agree
Writers Curse: If we are part of a single gem, the reflection off each facet may be different, but it is
Sunglo001: I wonder how anyone can think that it takes a Saint.. etc...to show us a way w/integrity..
Galaxon: 3K we are all just mirrors of ourselves
Temshaa: Thats right Galaxon Man!!!
Writers Curse: still a part of the whole. Therefore, if we understand our "oneness" we can see the other
Writers Curse: facets.
Mui Turtle: puts back on rose colored glasses continues search for holographic wild cherries
Galaxon: cherries? nah
Sunglo001: take them off, Turtle.. you're doing good w/o them
Wewachanpi: Hi Spirit
Gollywow5: I have learned more tonite and thank all of you for the sharing of knowledge
RBCF 3000: As speculative as tonight's lesson may seem, we will find it
RBCF 3000: extremely useful conceptually as we go along in the next
RBCF 3000: few months.
BeadBaron: .What have yoy learned?
RBCF 3000: Gollywow, thanks for coming-- would you like updates?
Gollywow5: :) 3k thank u for ur efforts:) yes please
Sunglo001: I've learned that even if we HAVE grown beyond the understanding (in our own minds) of other
Sunglo001: others.. given that, we are here, then to guide others ~ should they be so inclined
RBCF 3000: Sunglo, how can we *Know* that we know enough to teach others?
Sunglo001: 3K ~ we teach and we learn.. it's all the same
Sunglo001: but we can't think we have learned so much that we are beyond teaching
Sunglo001: to those who are just beginning
Wewachanpi: we teach by our eaxample 3K... good and the bad
Sunglo001: true ~ Wewa
Mui Turtle: we know we know by not knowing what to expect from a willing participant's knowing no?
Dolly Destiny1: that would slow a person down,,,stoping to explan to others...better to continue forward
Writers Curse: 3000, I think we recognize it when others come to us seeking answers.
RBCF 3000: Sunglo, actually, I teach classes like this in order to find
RBCF 3000: out what I know, or to invoke some knowledge that I want.
RBCF 3000: Wewachanpi, I agree. Example is the sure test.
Sunglo001: 3K ~ ok
Galaxon: 3k do you talk as fast as you type in the class?
Wewachanpi: i stopped teachin a year ago.. but people keep coming
Starlight044: i do not know turtle..lol
RBCF 3000: Writers Curse, I always ask them for bigger and better *questions*!
Starlight044: <<<has embraced her dark side..
Writers Curse: Me too, 3000, and I don't consider myself a teacher, merely another traveler.
Mui Turtle: Wew want to teach me on the side what it is you stopped ?
Treeswayen: <~~~~~~embraces anyone who will embrace back
RBCF 3000: I'd like to hear from any psychics or adepts in here, if the
RBCF 3000: ideas we looked at tonight help you in some way.
Treeswayen: I had a thought.... would like to know how my "natural" healing is different from "trained"
Treeswayen: healing like Reiki people do
RBCF 3000: Treeswayen, maybe because you don't yet understand how
RBCF 3000: you do it, so you can't do some things as if you did know
RBCF 3000: how you do it...?
Starlight044: do you have to understand the how ?
Sunglo001: trained is more organized.
RBCF 3000: Starlight, only if we wish to go beyond our current limits, right?
Sunglo001: in healing that is.
Treeswayen: how come I can find meridians almost at will
Starlight044: i guess I am different
Sunglo001: but you always have your right to expand on what you are taught.
RBCF 3000: For example, Luciano Pavaratti never learned to read music.
RBCF 3000: Just imagine what he could do, if he knew how.
Treeswayen: I remember a high jumper who went over the bar straddling it
Treeswayen: the coach wouldn't teach him proper technique because he was afraid it would destroy his
Treeswayen: natural ability
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RBCF 3000: Treeswayen, because your hands know how to feel
RBCF 3000: meridians-- that's not too difficult. But what if you wanted
RBCF 3000: to cure some entrenched brain tumor, or AIDS or something
RBCF 3000: like that?
Mui Turtle: 3000 that's what i meant by sometimes it pays not to pay attention
Writers Curse: 3000 would you please define for me what an "adept" is?
Treeswayen: I"d triple my fees, that's what!!
RBCF 3000: Mui Turtle, right-- the difference is to keep *intellect* out
RBCF 3000: of the way, and let the *proper* mind KNow, see?
Starlight044: i suppose i was speaking of the arcane
Treeswayen: and if I"m powerful enough to find a meridian, and anyone can "cure" a brain tumor
Galaxon: an adept is a person who finds the depth of lakes by tiptoeing thru them
Treeswayen: I can too
Treeswayen: good one Galaxon
Wewachanpi: excuse me 3K..u cannot heal any 1...only the creator can..we can only be instruments
RBCF 3000: Writers Curse, someone with gifts, powers or special
RBCF 3000: abilities; someone who has been trained in esoteric
RBCF 3000: disciplines.
Writers Curse: Thanks, 3000, guess that lets me out then <g>
Mui Turtle: 3000 can you read dimples in peoples head?
Treeswayen: agreed wewa
Sunglo001: agreed, Wewa.. we are channels or vessels through which the divine works
RBCF 3000: Wewachanpi, and how are we *separate* from the Creator??? That's my point here tonight.
JeannieJ1: are we separate???
RBCF 3000: Mui Turtle, enough to tell if they have zits.
Writers Curse: I don't think we are separate
Mui Turtle: lol
Saber of Gold: We are all pieces of the Whole
Wewachanpi: if your god in the fleh , you wouldn't be preaching youd be doing
JeannieJ1: we are all part of ONE
Treeswayen: In traditional Judaism, that is a definition of hell
Mui Turtle: one what though jeannie
Treeswayen: to be separate from the creator
RBCF 3000: Wewachanpi, right now I am sharing, earlier I was doing.
JeannieJ1: ONE energy
DDreamtime: Jesus "quote"anything i can do the least of you can do
Saber of Gold:
Mui Turtle: one energy, do we know the name of that energy we are one of?
Wewachanpi: seperation...not gods way
UNANA: Saber Imp?Sage?
RBCF 3000: DDreamtime, I am sure that is what he wanted for us, for us to follow in his steps, right?
JeannieJ1: it is up to our own reality as to what we call that ONEness....to me it's God
Writers Curse: Mui, the name may be different for different people, but ... still comes back to the same.
RBCF 3000: Mui Turtle, the One is not one anymore, the second that we think we know its "name"
Treeswayen: in the end... I'm the person who "feels" the pain of others
Mui Turtle: same , and one hmmm , so we really did not need to be here to know all this then as we
Saber of Gold:
Mui Turtle: already contained it
Treeswayen: and if I heal it.. I"m feeling it happen.. not a deity
RBCF 3000: Treeswayen, can you bear your own pain? That's been a buggaboo for me.
DDreamtime: 3000 empowered
JeannieJ1: we have "all" within us
Treeswayen: bear my own pain?
RBCF 3000: Treeswayen, how do you *know* it's not divine?
Treeswayen: I don't know what that means?
Treeswayen: I don't concern myself with whether it is or not.. I do or do not.
Treeswayen: I choose whether to give of myself.. to block the pain or accept it and relieve it
RBCF 3000: Treeswayen, it's not me, and it's not you, but it's not
RBCF 3000: "someone else" either. That's where the Divine comes in--
RBCF 3000: it makes us one together. That's what I've been proposing
RBCF 3000: tonight.
Mui Turtle: Trees i take it by you talking tonight that you do hands on therapy, filtering that of
Treeswayen: ok.. won't argue..
Mui Turtle: other's along with your own gets heavey doesn't it?
Treeswayen: I do hands on and talk therapy
RBCF 3000: (Before we go, here are the announcements:
RBCF 3000: Next week: "The discernment and application of love and
RBCF 3000: forgiveness as the alchemic base." Please continue
RBCF 3000: whatever daily practices you are doing -- we'll be using
RBCF 3000: everything that results from them.
RBCF 3000: These include stopping the internal dialogue; listening,
RBCF 3000: tasting and feeling on deep, synaesthesic levels; dream and
RBCF 3000: trance work; and consistent meditations of different kinds.
RBCF 3000: .
Galaxon: 3K are room chat logs available w/o the editing?
Sunglo001: never use your own...that's the key.. In fact, it isn't necessary
Mui Turtle: have you noted peaks or valleys right after on fluctuations of glucose meterings?
RBCF 3000: All the previous ten logues are downloadable from keyword
RBCF 3000: "New Age" Library II, if you missed any of the previous
RBCF 3000: classes, and tonight's logue (#11) will be available within the
RBCF 3000: next week.
Treeswayen: Mui... I'm not sure what you meant by filtering pain of others
Treeswayen: actually no
Mui Turtle: When you do hands on you take that through your own body
Treeswayen: unless my blood glucose is VERY high
Mui Turtle: filtering it out allowing its flow to run through is needed
RBCF 3000: Galaxon, they exist, but they are too cumbersome to
RBCF 3000: transmit in original form. I boil them down to text format.
Treeswayen: if it is low I can't think anyway
Mui Turtle: asked if you had troubles that way
Dolly Destiny1: 3000, you were great, great, great.
RBCF 3000: Dolly Destiny, shucks, thanks. :)))
Dolly Destiny1: KISSES FOR 3000
DDreamtime: thanks Barry :)
Treeswayen: oh, I see.. no.. I use the energy from outside.. not my own
RBCF 3000: <-- blushes pink
Dolly Destiny1: lol
Dolly Destiny1: <---blushes
Treeswayen: superb 3000.. <applause applause>
RBCF 3000: Well then, come on back-- there are at least 14 more
RBCF 3000: sessions to go in this series, y'hear?
BeadBaron: Thank you for your time 3000 love&light
Writers Curse: Thanks 3000, you set my mind in higher gear
Treeswayen: BB 3000
Dolly Destiny1: i hear
Sunglo001: L*L to you 3K
RBCF 3000: Everyone, I run four chats a week, and there are lots of
RBCF 3000: others, so please send in all your own ideas for chats and
RBCF 3000: classes.
RBCF 3000: Writers Curse, maybe you'll turn out to be an adept after all, eh?
Saber of Gold: Yep, this class was a good one
Treeswayen: ahh.. by the way.. when I use formal technique, the skill abandons me
Writers Curse: 3000, anything is possible
Mui Turtle: photon belt and exchanges in earthly matters 3000 would be good one
Treeswayen: interesting topic
Sunglo001: I think I had a pretty good one going there for a night of conversation... about being able
Saber of Gold: