Ecstatic Awareness Class 11

"Our Psychic Connection to Everything"

 

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Galaxon:    3000 whacha got in store today?

RochelleDo:       welcome 3000, lovely to see you

RBCF 3000: Welcome, everyone. Tonight is our eleventh

RBCF 3000: class in Ecstatic Awareness: "What is it that

RBCF 3000: psychically connects us to everything? Can we

RBCF 3000: gain control over it?"

Tipherath: 3K's gonna tune us all into ourselves, right 3000?....hehe

Sendee66:   what is ecastacic?

RochelleDo:       well I hope to, 3000

Galaxon:    3000 i am sorry..but isnt that just the experience of oneness?

RBCF 3000: Once again, for those who are joining us for the

RBCF 3000: first time, the way we are using the word

RBCF 3000: "ecstatic" here means entering into states of

RBCF 3000: consciousness, accompanied by transformation

RBCF 3000: of being, in which the supernatural and the

RBCF 3000: Miraculous can be witnessed and experienced

RBCF 3000: directly.

Sunglo001: if I could spell I could answer that in one word...concsciousness

RochelleDo:       well done, Sun

Tipherath: (3K, sex?)

Tipherath:

RochelleDo:       no sex, Tip

Galaxon:    3000 so how do we do it?

RBCF 3000: Tipherath, maybe next year we might get into sexual energies and their alchemies.

Sunglo001: next year!!

Galaxon:    this must be my class then

RochelleDo:       mine too

Tipherath: 3K...you know I'm with ya'...you go...

RBCF 3000: Ok, friends, let's begin tonight's class: "What is

RBCF 3000: it that psychically connects us to everything?" 

RBCF 3000: Most of us have been taught, or at least

RBCF 3000: guessed, that a psychic connection is

RBCF 3000: something like a radio signal, linking stations or

RBCF 3000: receivers together.

RBCF 3000: And in practice, it pretty much works out that

RBCF 3000: way -- a psychic or healer often feels that they

RBCF 3000: are tuning in to the person's frequency, and

RBCF 3000: either receiving messages from their

RBCF 3000: subconscious or transmitting balancing and

RBCF 3000: healing waves to them.

RBCF 3000: .

RBCF 3000: It might not be a person -- it could be, for

RBCF 3000: example, a place where some strong event

RBCF 3000: happened, as with ghost or UFO hunters, or an

RBCF 3000: object, like a sorcerer's stone or a saint's relic,

RBCF 3000: that has had a mysterious message or some

RBCF 3000: magical power stored into it.

Gollywow5:

RBCF 3000: It might be an attunement into a past life or a

RBCF 3000: parallel reality, as well, which would get rather

RBCF 3000: sci-fi in its practice.

RBCF 3000: .

Sunglo001: same thing, tho, yes?

RBCF 3000: Sunglo, pretty much-- just a little more, tho ...............

RBCF 3000: In such a metaphor or paradigm, "control" might

RBCF 3000: mean to read the other person's thoughts or

RBCF 3000: physical condition more accurately, or to

RBCF 3000: influence them through purely mental channels.

RBCF 3000: Or to learn to wield the power in a crystal or a

RBCF 3000: vortex.  In any event, it is taken as something

RBCF 3000: that we do to, or receive from, some external

RBCF 3000: person, place or event, even if the "event" lies

RBCF 3000: in some other dimension.

RBCF 3000: ****** Here would be a good place to stop

RBCF 3000: and ask you all how you describe psychic

RBCF 3000: events or practices that you have known.  Go

RBCF 3000: right ahead now, please ............

AngelsChild31:    I am connected To The angels

Sunglo001: I want to know what you meant by influence?

AngelsChild31:    I am very connected To my grandma

Galaxon:    since i have no pyschic ability, i'd say no description is available

AngelsChild31:     she has passed to The other side

Sendee66:   <^^ dont think I have any

RBCF 3000: Sunglo, "influence" is just a catch-all word for "acting from a distance"

Sunglo001: because there is no such thing as time or boundaries on dimensions, except those that

Sunglo001: we create...all things are available

MoMolly2:   how about tellign someone u love them telepathically and they put their finger in their ear

Galaxon:    >>>

Sendee66:   just connected to one guy....I seem to know   when he is going to be some where

RBCF 3000: Galaxon, or at least, none that you have described to yourself that way yet, maybe?

Galaxon:    3000 zero at all

AngelsChild31:    I feel connected to some people as well

Galaxon:    molly wax in ear?

Tipherath: no Q's, 3K...why not kick that mule

MoMolly2:   nope gal

DEEDAILEY: I have sent messages to my son, and he'd call a bit later, and say "OK..what's up?"

RochelleDo:       I am merely at the sychronicity stage where I am

RochelleDo:       beginning to believe...

AngelsChild31:    Like a spiritual bound or connection

BeadBaron: RB  I am a psychic no belles & whistles just quiet knowing

RBCF 3000: Sunglo, right-- that is my main point tonight, that there is a

RBCF 3000: lot of power in defining reality differently, and fluidly.

Sunglo001: because we can only accept so much at different times in our lives

RBCF 3000: Tipherath, I'd rather offer the mule a carrot or a sugar cube

RochelleDo:       and yet I now know I knew it...

Tipherath: 3K...never worked with mules then, have you?...lol

RBCF 3000: BeadBaron, how did you first know you were?

Sunglo001: as we grow... we grow. 

Galaxon:    3K...are you gonna give us techniques to feel oneness?

RBCF 3000: Sunglo, how much, though? 

MoMolly2:   I just want LOgic

Sunglo001: as much as you can for where you are in your understanding.

Sunglo001: everyone is different

RBCF 3000: Galaxon, not just "feel", but *see* it. 

BeadBaron: As a child I knew things would happen thot everyone did

Gollywow5: I "feel" things in a quiet but sure way as i feel the wind or sunshine and know it to be

RochelleDo:       I wish it wasnt so late ....  I hate leaving!!!

Gollywow5: "real"

Galaxon:    3K wow...when i can smell it, i'll have it made

RBCF 3000: MoMolly, inductive or deductive?  Digital or analog logic? 

MoMolly2:   just plain logic

Sunglo001: lol ~ get your cell phone

Tipherath: Gala...nope, when you can eat it, you have it made

Tipherath: (no sexual pun intended, but lol that it was

Tipherath: there)...

Kirstenese:       Golly, that's a nice way to put it

RBCF 3000: RochelleDo, then why not arrive instead? 

RochelleDo:       omg, 3000...:))))

Gollywow5: I "feel" things even now emanting from those in room

RBCF 3000: MoMolly, do you mean rationality?  Normal categories?

RBCF 3000: Because this class is all about *breaking* all those old

RBCF 3000: patterns so we can witness the miraculous nature of

RBCF 3000: existence.

RochelleDo:       that is why I love being present, Golly

Tipherath: Gala...but when you "eat" something, it becomes a part of you...was my meaning...

Gollywow5:

Galaxon:    tip if what i eat i become...that means.....

Tipherath: Gala, I was merely riding your metaphores

MoMolly2:   RBCF....  i just would like to not be delusional..  have a knowing , and not question

Sunglo001: but if you didn't question, how could you grow?

Tipherath: Gala...you virgin you...

Jewlcraft: a knowing without explanation

Dolly Destiny1:   like standing on the beach, the channel changes and now you are standing on the hill side..

Grazhopprr:       i learn so much here

MoMolly2:   yes  jewls  thanks

Jewlcraft: that's what it sometimes feels like

BeadBaron: I know what I know I just don't know how it works

Tipherath: Heart...returning my ears to 3K

Sunglo001: agreed, Jewl

RBCF 3000: BeadBaron, you may have some ideas about how it works, if

RBCF 3000: you journey with us for a while.

Grazhopprr:       if we understood how it works, we would not be here

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BeadBaron: Thanks Rb i'm listening please go forward

RochelleDo:       or we can build on it, Graz

Sunglo001: does it matter HOW it works?

RBCF 3000: Grazhopprr, or we would be teaching, right?

Dolly Destiny1:   no

Grazhopprr:       nope

Galaxon:    3K the galaxonman is ready for some basic procedures on doing this stuff

RochelleDo:       the "how" is in the "knowing"

MoMolly2:   im looking for inner truth.. why i allowed myself to question

Grazhopprr:       brb,,,,,,laundry, heh

RochelleDo:       maybe dont think too much, MoMolly?

JDRED1406: No, Sun; it really doesn't matter how it works.  Only that we have the ability and exercise

Sunglo001: because you would be "dead in the water" if you didn't question, Mo.

RBCF 3000: All right, friends, let's continue on with tonight's subject.

RBCF 3000: Please hold comments for a minute or two while I roll this

RBCF 3000: puppy out .............................................................

RBCF 3000: Now I am going to introduce a different paradigm for all

RBCF 3000: these psychic and magical events. First of all, and this idea

RBCF 3000: won't be totally new to a lot of you, we are NOT separate,

RBCF 3000: no more than the fingers of a hand or the leaves of a tree.

RBCF 3000: If my fingers each thought that it was some kind of

RBCF 3000: "individual" with "free will," my hand would quickly become

RBCF 3000: totally useless to me.

RBCF 3000: .

RBCF 3000: But fortunately, my fingers have submitted their "will" to a

RBCF 3000: Higher Authority (me!) and I can create delicate and

RBCF 3000: sublime intricacies with them, working in perfect harmony. 

RBCF 3000: Do I need to resort to "psychic powers" or some "aether" to

RBCF 3000: explain how my fingers know what each other is doing, and

RBCF 3000: what each one is supposed to do?

RBCF 3000: .

RochelleDo:       wonderful analogy, 3000

RBCF 3000: Obviously not. Now all I have to do is give you a good

RBCF 3000: enough justification for extending this simplistic metaphor to

RBCF 3000: ourselves and our world.

RBCF 3000: I have to admit that I didn't really believe this idea either,

RBCF 3000: for the longest time, until finally I could no longer escape

RBCF 3000: the synchronicities and gaps that I kept running into.

RBCF 3000: .

RBCF 3000: I didn't even believe in myself as a psychic until there were

RBCF 3000: too many times that I had "nailed" an image or event with

RBCF 3000: people that I had never known before, so much that they

RBCF 3000: would start sobbing at a memory they thought they had

RBCF 3000: buried, or some difficulty they were trying not to deal with.

RBCF 3000: I still don't like making predictions for people, I suppose

RBCF 3000: because I feel like I am somehow *causing* the event to

RBCF 3000: happen that way.

RBCF 3000: .

RBCF 3000: But instead of having to go around saying, "Gosh, ain't this

RBCF 3000: weird," or "I don't know how I could have known that," I get

RBCF 3000: to go around with a model of reality more like a weaving or

RBCF 3000: a tapestry, wherein all the figures and designs in the fabric

RBCF 3000: are composed of exactly the same threads as each other:

RBCF 3000: the same red thread in each of us, the same white one, etc.

RBCF 3000: .

RBCF 3000: Another way that I like thinking of this is a hologram. You're

RBCF 3000: all familiar with the the 2-dimensional holograms on credit

RBCF 3000: cards that hold enough different variations of an image that

RBCF 3000: it looks animated if you hold and move the card the right

RBCF 3000: way,

RBCF 3000: and if you go to any science museum, they'll usually have a

RBCF 3000: 3-dimensional image that changes as you walk around it.

RBCF 3000: .

RBCF 3000: One of my favorite properties of a hologram is that, if you

RBCF 3000: cut it or break it up into many small pieces, each piece

RBCF 3000: contains the entire image as the original, just smaller.

RBCF 3000: So I envision some kind of hologram of many dimensions, each of which is conscious.

RBCF 3000: ****** I'd love to hear what kinds of synchronicites,

RBCF 3000: paradoxes or unexplainable gaps have forced you to re-

RBCF 3000: examine your opinion of "normal reality," or any questions

RBCF 3000: you might have about what I am describing here.  Go right

RBCF 3000: ahead now, please. ..................................

JDRED1406: The more we question things, the more we learn and understand.

MoMolly2:   you mean like feeling in sinc with someone.. like at work.. same wavelength? that means you are

MoMolly2:   one?

Sunglo001: that would be us humans

RochelleDo:       exactly...it is wondrous...

Jewlcraft: the only thing that really separates each of us from the other is our own free will

RBCF 3000: Sunglo, which part would be "human"?

Galaxon:    3K i apologize for being so un-metaphysical..but i have had none

Mui Turtle:       could you repeat that request

RBCF 3000: Jewlcraft, that was my question-- can we truly believe in

RBCF 3000: the rightness of our "free will"?

Jewlcraft: define "rightness"

Gollywow5:  3k I am reminded much right now of the"Celestine Phrophecy" book

Jewlcraft: it wouldnt be there if it wasnt "right"

RBCF 3000: Galaxon, how about just, "What do these examples make you think of?" 

Mui Turtle:       3000 are you a holegram ?

RBCF 3000: Gollywow, I think that book has a lot of examples about this, right.

MoMolly2:   this is a little deep for me

Galaxon:    3k.....welll..like when i looked at my plate and the steak told me to not eat it?

MoMolly2:   plain english

Wewachanpi:       3K..much is predetermined , how we work it out is our free will...sound right?

MoMolly2:   no masters here

Sunglo001: 3K ~ the holagram broken into pieces.. all showing the whole

RBCF 3000: Mui Turtle, I/you/we/God-are-the-hologram, is how I'd put it.

JerryAtrix000:    I agree with wewa

Mui Turtle:       how do you know that 3000

MoMolly2:   i understood the annology  with the broken pieces..

Writers Curse:    I was comparing your analogy of the hologram to tangrams, where different shapes are made

Writers Curse:    from the same pieces.

Dolly Destiny1:   all this is, is the hologram, the universe, became conscious. & look with that conscious.

RBCF 3000: Galaxon, you have to be nice to your steak before it will let you eat it. 

Wewachanpi:       too much thought , heart has to feel

MoMolly2:   and your orka mike.. remember that!

MoMolly2:   i am all emotion

MoMolly2:   thats why i seek logic

RBCF 3000: Sunglo, sounds right-- each human would then be a "shard" of the hologram, eh?

Dolly Destiny1:   we can look WITH that conscious of the universe that became conscious

Wewachanpi:       how can spirit create when the thought processes get in the way of natural events?

RBCF 3000: Writers Curse, where could I see examples of "tangrams"?

Gollywow5: I feel more like its a rubic cube and getting in touch with Pyshic abilitys helps to align

Sunglo001: 3k ~ yup  :)  ~ that's why the term "mirroring"  (sp?)

JerryAtrix000:    all these shapes to ponder upon

Gollywow5: the cube in its proper rows of color coordinations

Writers Curse:    Tangrams are used in elementary schools to teach kids different ways of perceiving the same objects, RBCF.

RBCF 3000: Dolly Destiny, my idea is that each piece is inherently conscious-- just has to wake up.

RBCF 3000: Sunglo, you bet!

MoMolly2:   ok I'm awake...  why hasn't it come yet?

Gollywow5: a combination of what is phyisacl and hat is determined by free choices of free willed peopl

Wewachanpi:       MO?

Dolly Destiny1:   3000 i have no idea why some did not wake up.

Mui Turtle:       since we are allowed freedom to express what we think about something ask, i would say we 

Zamurito:   MoMolly, are you awake, or just having a realization?

Mui Turtle:       are into speculations here.

RBCF 3000: MoMolly, *Awake* doesn't say, "Ok, I'm awake, but I don't

RBCF 3000: see."  *Awake* says, "I-am-awake-and-I-see-with-you-

RBCF 3000: God-all-one"

Wewachanpi:       see...MO?

Zamurito:   Yes, 3k, what you said

RBCF 3000: Dolly Destiny, each one awakens when it has a flux of

RBCF 3000: energy to do it with.  Awakeness is ecstatic energy.

Mui Turtle:       "I ,we, god, 3000 all holograms 2 of which you cannot honestly say for sure are there only 1

Mui Turtle:       yourself

Gollywow5: awake=aware

RBCF 3000: Mui Turtle, what?

Sunglo001: we are all at different levels of awareness.. and then also perceive that awareness through

Sunglo001: our own eyes

Gollywow5: yes

Wewachanpi:       yes.... SUNGLO...thats it!

MoMolly2:   so is it gonna take me a life time to finally see?

Sunglo001: Mo ~ you see as you see now.  Let it happen.

Gollywow5: no Momolly each sees according to their need and gifts

RBCF 3000: Sunglo, my idea is that each of us is God-at-different-

RBCF 3000: perspectives-in-the-hologram-all-equal.

Wewachanpi:       all levels of understandings , 1 for each to explore in his way

BeadBaron: MO many lifetimes

Dolly Destiny1:   3000 all it takes is being more Alive....use our emotions

Gollywow5: and desire to see

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RBCF 3000: MoMolly, we work at it for lifetimes, but we *see* in a moment, see? 

Sunglo001: 3k ~ of course we are equal.  I was where you were, he was were I am going to be, I am where

Sunglo001: they will be

MoMolly2:   cause life is short..

Sunglo001: doesn't matter.. it's all the same.

RBCF 3000: Sunglo, but then where does he sit when the music stops? 

Mui Turtle:       and it just does not pay to think of it much now does it

Sunglo001: LOL ~  I don't know.. but I'm in the chair!  LOL

Mui Turtle:      

MoMolly2:   getting a head ache

RBCF 3000: Dolly Destiny, absolutely-- we'll be getting to the kind of

RBCF 3000: emotions that take us to specific realities.

Galaxon:    Molly why?

Dolly Destiny1:   3000, ok,

Galaxon:    3000...let me see....emotions are the attractors of what?

MoMolly2:   this is actually all new to me guys.. only 3 years old new age time

RBCF 3000: Dolly Destiny, that is precisely why most religions have so

RBCF 3000: much emotional content- they were engineered to produce

RBCF 3000: states for witnessing Divine Presence, although most have

RBCF 3000: forgotten how and why.

Gollywow5: similar emotions

Wewachanpi:       its okay Mo...youll find the way

BeadBaron: I can only do readings if totally detached

Trees my love:    Emotions are so much ego

MoMolly2:   thanks  hope so

Gollywow5:

Sunglo001: that's cuz there are too many rules attached to it, 3K

RBCF 3000: Galaxon, all emotions are precisely the attractors of

RBCF 3000: realities.  That's why it is so important to project love,

RBCF 3000: forgiveness, gratitude and humility-- takes us to the

RBCF 3000: highest we can get to.

Mui Turtle:       Wew think i will find the way too?

Trees my love:    ego clouds remembering

MoMolly2:   no emotions are love, anger, frustration  etc

RBCF 3000: Trees my love, there are very different kinds of "emotions"

Wewachanpi:       u will... every one percieives differently thats what its all about

Dolly Destiny1:   religions remove emotions from the masses.  stops human divine magic.

Mui Turtle:       what is the way first

Galaxon:    3000 that is wha conversations with God says,too

Wewachanpi:       sure MUI

Wewachanpi:       i will to one dday.. every day is growth

RBCF 3000: MoMolly, in my paradigm, most of those are not emotions at

RBCF 3000: all, but stories that we keep telling ourselves to justify a

RBCF 3000: point of view.

Galaxon:    3K are those macros or are you a fast typing fiend? hehe

Mui Turtle:       Wew just so they do not ask me to get on a flaming ship flying through skies

Gollywow5: 3k right on!

RBCF 3000: Galaxon, right now I am just typing fast.

MoMolly2:   ok so my life is a lie RBCF?

RBCF 3000: MoMolly, and mine, and his, and theirs-- all illusion.

Mui Turtle:       lol that is no way towards the way

RBCF 3000: ... all dream.

Wewachanpi:       oh come on  could be fun!

Trees my love:    so many forms of emotion, how many forms of ego?

MoMolly2:   if you pinch me  do i not ouch?

Sunglo001: no, Mo... your life is NOT a lie... it is YOUR perception... and everyone is at different

Sunglo001: aspects of persception

RBCF 3000: Mui Turtle, why not?  That is exactly what I intend to do! 

Galaxon:    if i pinch her i go ouch when she slaps me

Gollywow5: as the aborgines of Au say this is the dream the real world is to come

Damp Bunny:       heheh gala

MoMolly2:   wacks  MIke

Mui Turtle:       3000 why do i not doubt that from you

Wewachanpi:       galax...good one!

RBCF 3000: MoMolly, I've had dreams where I proved in many ways that I was *awake* in them.

Wewachanpi:       thats about levels of consiousness 3K

Sunglo001: i bet

Trees my love:    oh dear, have to go

MoMolly2:   RBCF.. i am genuinely courious.. not tryiong to make a mockery

RBCF 3000: Gollywow, not exactly "yet to come", but parallel, or enfolding, like an onion.

MoMolly2:   i seek understanding

Mui Turtle:       3000 do you think we actually ever went and walked on the moon?

Mui Turtle:       or was that a trickery holographic image

RBCF 3000: MoMolly, I appreciate your comments and questions.

Gollywow5: layered

Sunglo001: onion ~ a peeling away

Damp Bunny:       it was a studio

Damp Bunny:       moon studio

Galaxon:    3000 to whom did you prove this?

RBCF 3000: Mui Turtle, not to my own personal witnessing, so I hold that open.

RBCF 3000: Galaxon, to everyone in the "room" with me, in the dream.

Gollywow5:

MoMolly2:   well we had all better wake up

Galaxon:    3000 oh...they were all dream figures. jehova's witnesses>?)

Wewachanpi:       hahahah  heheh...galx

MoMolly2:   how about new beginnings?

Dolly Destiny1:   3000, i go with you sharing of the dream, i too experince those dreams.

RBCF 3000: Galaxon, they were all adepts.

MoMolly2:   thanks everyone

Mui Turtle:       some hologram

RBCF 3000: Dolly Destiny, I thought you did.

Galaxon:    3000 you mean you had dream links?

MoMolly2:   its been interesting

Gollywow5: 144,000 choir then gala

Grazhopprr:       adept at what

Sunglo001: thank you, Molly

Wewachanpi:       going MO?

MoMolly2:   yes  wew

RBCF 3000: Galaxon, more than links-- we went into telepathic rapport,

RBCF 3000: and performed things like telekinesis and levitation.

Sunglo001: See ~ not everyone is at the same level.. we have to be able to communicate

Sunglo001: at the level to which the person is that we speak to... if

we can

Galaxon:    3K i thought you told me you never felt oneness

Mui Turtle:       Sunglo you go girl

Writers Curse:    Sun, the common denominator?

Sunglo001: No... just that you have to remember from which you came, and be able to speak at the

Sunglo001: level to communicate to someone who is trying to grow

Mui Turtle:       horizontal or vertical growth Sun?

Sunglo001: If you speak way beyond their messure, they get frustrated.

Wewachanpi:       Sun <you are so right-on!!

RBCF 3000: Galaxon, for when I said I didn't feel oneness-- do you

RBCF 3000: mean when I said we'll also *see* it?

Writers Curse:    Sun, so it's like nuturing them, so they can in turn nurture someone else.

Grazhopprr:       theories are nice, aren't they

Sunglo001: yes, Writers

Sunglo001: Graz  ~ it ain't a theory.. if that was directed to what I said.

RBCF 3000: Sunglo, usually they just ignore it, or they may present irrelevant arguments.

Gollywow5: the desriptions of thier reality is what bars most from "understanding"

Sunglo001: 3k ~ ya don't know if ya don't work with em

Mui Turtle:       3000 there you messed up , everything is relevant

Gollywow5: thier egos can't take the awakening and don't want to accept another truth other then what

RBCF 3000: Mui Turtle, where?

Gollywow5: they ahve built it to be

Mui Turtle:       there

Mui Turtle:       where else

Sunglo001: Golly ~ very untrue.. or they wouldn't be seeking

Sunglo001: something within tells them to ask, to question.. even if they don't understand

BeadBaron: I was hoping for an intelligent conversation!!!!!

Gollywow5: they r genrally seeking first from "need"

Grazhopprr:       < was a seeker, grew out of it

Mui Turtle:       tickles the brain

Sunglo001: at this point and time.. you may be planting a seed.. make sure it is a good one.

Sunglo001: Graz ~ you have learned to filter.. that's the differnce

Writers Curse:    So a sense of imbalance causes them to seek out whatever is missing.

Wewachanpi:       egos Bead

Grazhopprr:       sunny, nah, just gave up hearing nice theories, heh,,,,,,just a watcher now

RBCF 3000: And now, friends, for the exciting conclusion of tonight's

RBCF 3000: lesson -- "How to gain control over our psychic abilities and

RBCF 3000: connections" although, if we operate from this last

RBCF 3000: perspective I've offered here, we might have to ask, "How

RBCF 3000: can we integrate with the consciousnesses of an n-th

RBCF 3000: dimensional self-reflexive hologram?"

RBCF 3000: .

RBCF 3000: I've made "consciousness" plural here because I see each

RBCF 3000: "weaving" of it as an archetypal consciousness; that is,

RBCF 3000: each point of view of it, of our life experience, can properly

RBCF 3000: be regarded as a specific consciousness--

RBCF 3000: an archetype, in a sense.  Most of the pagan, Hindu, Greek,

RBCF 3000: Egyptian, Roman, Norse and tribal pantheons of deities

RBCF 3000: have been such archetypes: the god of War, the goddess

RBCF 3000: of hunting, the god of good penmanship, I suppose. 

RBCF 3000: .

RBCF 3000: Now in this new model, each of these "gods" is now a

RBCF 3000: thread of our tapestry, the one in which each and all of our

RBCF 3000: life experiences is woven.

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RBCF 3000: To each of these gods is ascribed immortal powers and

RBCF 3000: knowledge of various kinds, so each of those now becomes

RBCF 3000: available to us, if we know how to invoke them and then

RBCF 3000: wield them.

RBCF 3000: .

RBCF 3000: I notice that we have a huge body of literature and film

RBCF 3000: about what happens from dark or ignorant misuse of

RBCF 3000: supernatural power, and these tales have always intrigued

RBCF 3000: us.

RBCF 3000: Almost always, the solution offered is to "make it go away"

RBCF 3000: either by killing off the sorcerers or the observers, or by

RBCF 3000: having the witnesses forget or wander off into seclusion.

RBCF 3000: .

RBCF 3000: It is very rare that we are told or shown examples of the

RBCF 3000: integrity, humility and discipline that it takes to adopt our

RBCF 3000: powers in an integrated way, as part of who and what we

RBCF 3000: are.

RBCF 3000: We normally attribute that to saints and martyrs, very far

RBCF 3000: from what any of us would consider doing ourselves, at

RBCF 3000: least until we take too much Prozac and go berserk.

RBCF 3000: ****** Well, friends, those are the ideas that I'd like you

RBCF 3000: to think about for yourselves. Now let's hear your questions

RBCF 3000: and comments. Go right ahead now, please.

RBCF 3000: ....................................

Mui Turtle:       3000 dark and ignorant are judgements , a hologram doesn't know how unless guided by mind

RBCF 3000: Mui Turtle, exactly true.

Wewachanpi:       this is way too much

Wewachanpi:       Agree with u MUI

RBCF 3000: <-- also agrees with MUI

Dolly Destiny1:   <---agree

Wewachanpi:       progress....

Writers Curse:    If we are part of a single gem, the reflection off each facet may be different, but it is

Sunglo001: I wonder how anyone can think that it takes a Saint.. etc...to show us a way w/integrity..

Galaxon:    3K we are all just mirrors of ourselves

Temshaa:    Thats right Galaxon Man!!!

Writers Curse:    still a part of the whole. Therefore, if we understand our "oneness" we can see the other

Writers Curse:    facets.

Mui Turtle:       puts back on rose colored glasses continues search for holographic wild cherries

Galaxon:    cherries? nah

Sunglo001: take them off, Turtle.. you're doing good w/o them

Wewachanpi:        coughing...holograms

Wewachanpi:       Hi Spirit

Wewachanpi:       by

Gollywow5: I have learned more tonite and thank all of you for the sharing of knowledge

RBCF 3000: As speculative as tonight's lesson may seem, we will find it

Gollywow5: Peace

RBCF 3000: extremely useful conceptually as we go along in the next

RBCF 3000: few months.

BeadBaron: .What have yoy learned?

RBCF 3000: Gollywow, thanks for coming-- would you like updates?

Gollywow5: :) 3k thank u for ur efforts:)  yes please

Sunglo001: I've learned that even if we HAVE grown beyond the understanding (in our own minds) of other

Sunglo001: others.. given that, we are here, then to guide others ~ should they be so inclined

RBCF 3000: Sunglo, how can we *Know* that we know enough to teach others?

Sunglo001: 3K ~ we teach and we learn.. it's all the same

Sunglo001: but we can't think we have learned so much that we are beyond teaching

Sunglo001: to those who are just beginning

Wewachanpi:       we teach by our eaxample 3K... good and the bad

Sunglo001: true ~ Wewa

Mui Turtle:       we know we know by not knowing what to expect from a willing participant's knowing no?

Dolly Destiny1:   that would slow a person down,,,stoping to explan to others...better to continue forward

Writers Curse:    3000, I think we recognize it when others come to us seeking answers.

RBCF 3000: Sunglo, actually, I teach classes like this in order to find

RBCF 3000: out what I know, or to invoke some knowledge that I want.

RBCF 3000: Wewachanpi, I agree.  Example is the sure test.

Sunglo001: 3K ~ ok 

Galaxon:    3k do you talk as fast as you type in the class?

Wewachanpi:       i stopped teachin a year ago.. but people keep coming

Starlight044:     i do not know turtle..lol

RBCF 3000: Writers Curse, I always ask them for bigger and better *questions*! 

Starlight044:     <<<has embraced her dark side..

Writers Curse:    Me too, 3000, and I don't consider myself a teacher, merely another traveler.

Mui Turtle:       Wew want to teach me on the side what it is you stopped ?

Treeswayen:       <~~~~~~embraces anyone who will embrace back

RBCF 3000: I'd like to hear from any psychics or adepts in here, if the

RBCF 3000: ideas we looked at tonight help you in some way.

Treeswayen:       I had a thought.... would like to know how my "natural" healing is different from "trained"

Treeswayen:       healing like Reiki people do

RBCF 3000: Treeswayen, maybe because you don't yet understand how

RBCF 3000: you do it, so you can't do some things as if you did know

RBCF 3000: how you do it...?

Starlight044:     do you have to understand the how ?

Sunglo001: trained is more organized.

RBCF 3000: Starlight, only if we wish to go beyond our current limits, right?

Sunglo001: in healing that is.

Treeswayen:       how come I can find meridians almost at will

Starlight044:     i guess I am different

Sunglo001: but you always have your right to expand on what you are taught.

Sunglo001:

RBCF 3000: For example, Luciano Pavaratti never learned to read music.

RBCF 3000:  Just imagine what he could do, if he knew how. 

Treeswayen:       I remember a high jumper who went over the bar straddling it

Treeswayen:       the coach wouldn't teach him proper technique because he was afraid it would destroy his

Treeswayen:       natural ability

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RBCF 3000: Treeswayen, because your hands know how to feel

RBCF 3000: meridians-- that's not too difficult.  But what if you wanted

RBCF 3000: to cure some entrenched brain tumor, or AIDS or something

RBCF 3000: like that?

Mui Turtle:       3000 that's what i meant by sometimes it pays not to pay attention

Writers Curse:    3000 would you please define for me what an "adept" is?

Treeswayen:       I"d triple my fees, that's what!!

RBCF 3000: Mui Turtle, right-- the difference is to keep *intellect* out

RBCF 3000: of the way, and let the *proper* mind KNow, see?

Starlight044:     i suppose i was speaking of the arcane

Treeswayen:       and if I"m powerful enough to find a meridian, and anyone can "cure" a brain tumor

Galaxon:    an adept is a person who finds the depth of lakes by tiptoeing thru them

Treeswayen:       I can too

Treeswayen:       good one Galaxon

Wewachanpi:       excuse me 3K..u cannot heal any 1...only the creator can..we can only be instruments

RBCF 3000: Writers Curse, someone with gifts, powers or special

RBCF 3000: abilities; someone who has been trained in esoteric

RBCF 3000: disciplines.

Writers Curse:    Thanks, 3000, guess that lets me out then <g>

Mui Turtle:       3000 can you read dimples in peoples head?

Treeswayen:       agreed wewa

Sunglo001: agreed, Wewa.. we are channels or vessels through which the divine works

UNANA:      phrenology

RBCF 3000: Wewachanpi, and how are we *separate* from the Creator???  That's my point here tonight.

JeannieJ1: are we separate???

RBCF 3000: Mui Turtle, enough to tell if they have zits.

Writers Curse:    I don't think we are separate

Mui Turtle:       lol

Saber of Gold:    We are all pieces of the Whole

Wewachanpi:       if your god in the fleh , you wouldn't be preaching youd be doing

JeannieJ1: we are all part of ONE

Treeswayen:       In traditional Judaism, that is a definition of hell

Mui Turtle:       one what though jeannie

Wewachanpi:       flesh...sorry

Treeswayen:       to be separate from the creator

RBCF 3000: Wewachanpi, right now I am sharing, earlier I was doing.

JeannieJ1: ONE energy

DDreamtime:       Jesus "quote"anything i can do the least of you can do

JeannieJ1: ONEness

Saber of Gold:   

Mui Turtle:       one energy, do we know the name of that energy we are one of?

Wewachanpi:       seperation...not gods way

UNANA:      Saber  Imp?Sage?

RBCF 3000: DDreamtime, I am sure that is what he wanted for us, for us to follow in his steps, right?

JeannieJ1: it is up to our own reality as to what we call that ONEness....to me it's God

Writers Curse:    Mui, the name may be different for different people, but ... still comes back to the same.

RBCF 3000: Mui Turtle, the One is not one anymore, the second that we think we know its "name"

Treeswayen:       in the end... I'm the person who "feels" the pain of others

Mui Turtle:       same , and one hmmm , so we really did not need to be here to know all this then as we

Saber of Gold:   

Mui Turtle:       already contained it

Treeswayen:       and if I heal it.. I"m feeling it happen.. not a deity

RBCF 3000: Treeswayen, can you bear your own pain?  That's been a buggaboo for me.

DDreamtime:       3000  empowered  

JeannieJ1: we have "all" within us

Treeswayen:       bear my own pain? 

RBCF 3000: Treeswayen, how do you *know* it's not divine?

Treeswayen:       I don't know what that means?

Treeswayen:       I don't concern myself with whether it is or not.. I do or do not.

Treeswayen:       I choose whether to give of myself.. to block the pain or accept it and relieve it

RBCF 3000: Treeswayen, it's not me, and it's not you, but it's not

RBCF 3000: "someone else" either.  That's where the Divine comes in-- 

RBCF 3000: it makes us one together. That's what I've been proposing

RBCF 3000: tonight.

Mui Turtle:       Trees i take it by you talking tonight that you do hands on therapy, filtering that of

Treeswayen:       ok.. won't argue..

Mui Turtle:       other's along with your own gets heavey doesn't it?

Treeswayen:       I do hands on and talk therapy

RBCF 3000: (Before we go, here are the announcements:

RBCF 3000: Next week: "The discernment and application of love and

RBCF 3000: forgiveness as the alchemic base." Please continue

RBCF 3000: whatever daily practices you are doing -- we'll be using

RBCF 3000: everything that results from them. 

RBCF 3000: These include stopping the internal dialogue; listening,

RBCF 3000: tasting and feeling on deep, synaesthesic levels; dream and

RBCF 3000: trance work; and consistent meditations of different kinds.

RBCF 3000: .

Galaxon:    3K are room chat logs available w/o the editing?

Sunglo001: never use your own...that's the key.. In fact, it isn't necessary

Mui Turtle:       have you noted peaks or valleys right after on fluctuations of glucose meterings?

RBCF 3000: All the previous ten logues are downloadable from keyword

RBCF 3000: "New Age" Library II, if you missed any of the previous

RBCF 3000: classes, and tonight's logue (#11) will be available within the

RBCF 3000: next week.

Treeswayen:       Mui... I'm not sure what you meant by filtering pain of others

Treeswayen:       actually no

Mui Turtle:       When you do hands on you take that through your own body

Treeswayen:       unless my blood glucose is VERY high

Mui Turtle:       filtering it out allowing its flow to run through is needed

RBCF 3000: Galaxon, they exist, but they are too cumbersome to

RBCF 3000: transmit in original form.  I boil them down to text format.

Treeswayen:       if it is low I can't think anyway

Mui Turtle:       asked if you had troubles that way

Dolly Destiny1:   3000, you were great, great, great.  

RBCF 3000: Dolly Destiny, shucks, thanks.  :)))

Dolly Destiny1:   KISSES FOR 3000

DDreamtime:       thanks  Barry :) 

Treeswayen:       oh, I see.. no.. I use the energy from outside.. not my own

RBCF 3000: <-- blushes pink 

Dolly Destiny1:   lol

Mui Turtle:      

Dolly Destiny1:   <---blushes

Treeswayen:       superb 3000.. <applause applause>

RBCF 3000: Well then, come on back-- there are at least 14 more

RBCF 3000: sessions to go in this series, y'hear? 

BeadBaron: Thank you for your time 3000  love&light

Writers Curse:    Thanks 3000, you set my mind in higher gear

Treeswayen:       BB 3000

Dolly Destiny1:   i hear

Sunglo001: L*L to you 3K

RBCF 3000: Everyone, I run four chats a week, and there are lots of

RBCF 3000: others, so please send in all your own ideas for chats and

RBCF 3000: classes.

RBCF 3000: Writers Curse, maybe you'll turn out to be an adept after all, eh?

Saber of Gold:    Yep, this class was a good one

Treeswayen:       ahh.. by the way.. when I use formal technique, the skill abandons me

Writers Curse:    3000, anything is possible

Mui Turtle:       photon belt and exchanges in earthly matters 3000 would be good one

Treeswayen:       interesting topic

Sunglo001: I think I had a pretty good one going there for a night of conversation... about being able

Saber of Gold: