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HOST LFST Heart: :*``*: RBCF 3000 :*``*:

RBCF 3000: Good evening, dear friends.

RBCF 3000: Tonight, by sheer synchronicity, my class on Ecstatic Awareness is all about "love"

RBCF 3000: Our dear Heart is my MC for this class-- we go for 1.5 hours.

HOST LFST Heart: and listen quietly when 3000 talks

Treeswayen: do I get CME credit?

Treeswayen: do I get ANY credit?

RBCF 3000: Treeswayen, yes, if you complete all 25 weeks of this class,

RBCF 3000: and take the one-week vision quest that follows, I'll engrave

RBCF 3000: you a certificate.

RBCF 3000: Ok, let's go ahead and get started ....................

RBCF 3000: Welcome, everyone -- and happy Valentine's day.

RBCF 3000: Tonight is our twelfth class in Ecstatic Awareness:

RBCF 3000: "The discernment and application of love, gratitude

RBCF 3000: and forgiveness as the alchemic base."

RBCF 3000: Once again, for those who are joining us for the first

RBCF 3000: time, the way we are using the word "ecstatic

RBCF 3000: awareness" here means entering into states of

RBCF 3000: consciousness, accompanied by transformation of

RBCF 3000: being, in which the supernatural and the Miraculous

RBCF 3000: can be witnessed and experienced directly.

RBCF 3000: Ok, friends, let's begin tonight's class: "The

RBCF 3000: discernment and application of love, gratitude and

RBCF 3000: forgiveness as the alchemic base." I suppose you

RBCF 3000: might be wondering why I went out of my way to make

RBCF 3000: some simple emotions sound so complicated, so

RBCF 3000: lemme 'splain it to youse in plain English.

RBCF 3000: .

RBCF 3000: In the first place, I am not even referring to anything

RBCF 3000: that is commonly understood as "emotions" or

RBCF 3000: sentiments.

RBCF 3000: By "love" I am not speaking of attachment or

RBCF 3000: affection; by "gratitude" I do not mean merely

RBCF 3000: "appreciatiativeness" or sense of indebtedness; and

RBCF 3000: certainly "forgiveness" is not lip-service while stuffing

RBCF 3000: down our grudges and maintaining that we are still

RBCF 3000: "right" and those others are still "wrong."

RBCF 3000: .

RBCF 3000: But before we tackle what those words might mean

RBCF 3000: instead, let us first take a look at the expression, "the

RBCF 3000: alchemic base."

RBCF 3000: The whole idea of alchemy has come down to us as

RBCF 3000: some sort of primitive pseudo-chemistry, perhaps

RBCF 3000: closer to the practice of witch-doctors, based on

RBCF 3000: unfounded superstitions. The main notion that most

RBCF 3000: people have about it is something about changing lead

RBCF 3000: into gold.

RBCF 3000: However, in esoteric mysticism, the transformation of

RBCF 3000: lead into gold is intended as a metaphor for a truly

RBCF 3000: organic process, and it explains many of the obscure

RBCF 3000: passages in the Bible, in the Zohar, in the Vedas, in

RBCF 3000: the Tao te-Ch'ing and in very many mythological

RBCF 3000: stories.

RBCF 3000: .

RBCF 3000: My belief is that most of the depictions of miracles in

RBCF 3000: the Bible, and the fabled journeys of Sinbad, Ulysses,

RBCF 3000: Psyche, Orphaeus and other mythological

RBCF 3000: adventurers, were metaphors for the inner journey to

RBCF 3000: discover our true nature and powers, and the

RBCF 3000: transformations that are required of us to accomplish

RBCF 3000: that.

RBCF 3000: .

RBCF 3000: The objects to be found in these stories can be holy

RBCF 3000: grails or golden fleeces or pots o' gold at the end o' the

RBCF 3000: rainbow; Shangri-la, El Dorado, the fountain of youth,

RBCF 3000: King Solomon's goldmines, Buddha's necklace, the

RBCF 3000: Keys of Enoch, even the Land of Oz or the rabbit hole

RBCF 3000: of Alice in Wonderland.

RBCF 3000: .

RBCF 3000: According to the teachings, these places and things

RBCF 3000: were never intended to be taken literally, not as

RBCF 3000: someplace you can go to, or something you can find

RBCF 3000: there and just take home with you.

RBCF 3000: In many cases, the hero dies as a mortal and is

RBCF 3000: brought back to life in a divine or semi-divine form.

RBCF 3000: .

RBCF 3000: Usually the hero is told to be careful about something

RBCF 3000: ("Don't open the box", "Don't look back", "Cover your

RBCF 3000: eyes, plug your ears", "Prepare for a flood or a

RBCF 3000: tempest", "Do not speak to anyone", "Keep your head

RBCF 3000: down", etc.),

RBCF 3000: but often the hero disregards the advice, or is tempted

RBCF 3000: by some Master of Illusion, or is thwarted by a

RBCF 3000: guardian or a daemon, and so either dies or becomes

RBCF 3000: lost in a maze or gets changed into a hawk, or

RBCF 3000: something like that.

RBCF 3000: .

RBCF 3000: But supposedly there is no *external* danger, no

RBCF 3000: "master of illusion" outside of our own mind, no "maze

RBCF 3000: of desolation" or fire-swamp or Dungeon of Despair

RBCF 3000: outside of our own internal fabrication.

RBCF 3000: Also, the frogs, hawks and unicorns that we get

RBCF 3000: changed into are not just fantasy, but their reality is

RBCF 3000: not in the ordinary hum-drum we have consoled

RBCF 3000: ourselves to as where we 'bide our time till the clock

RBCF 3000: runs out for us.

RBCF 3000: .

RBCF 3000: Finally, according to esoteric teachings, all that gold

RBCF 3000: and all those secrets that so many mythic heroes

RBCF 3000: have lost their lives in struggling to obtain, is in no

RBCF 3000: way referring to a shiny metal that is found in the

RBCF 3000: ground, nor is Buddha's necklace made up of oyster

RBCF 3000: pearls.

RBCF 3000: ******* Well, then, friends-- what do you suppose all

RBCF 3000: these allusions really *are* talking about? Go right

RBCF 3000: ahead now with your comments and questions, please

Mui Turtle: 3000 did you actually take classes to learn this stuff or did you compile a hypothesis based

Mui Turtle: on personal theory

DCizunas: I've always thought that gold was the same as the gold in the aura, meaning peace

Bayingwolf: It rolled by fine....and I am still contemplating

Bayingwolf: all that info 3000

BeadBaron: They are talking about life and the lessons in morality often

Grazhopprr: gold is just a symbol of understanding, perspective

RBCF 3000: DCizunas, in the alchemic sense, which I'll be getting

RBCF 3000: into more here, it refers to the completion of the

RBCF 3000: octaves of transformation.

Bayingwolf: They are telling us....follow our dreams and be

Bayingwolf: heros?

DCizunas: Look forward to that part 3K

RBCF 3000: Bayingwolf, maybe not *all* our dreams-- not till we

RBCF 3000: learn to control our path through the dreamworld,

RBCF 3000: which we'll be discussing next week.

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RBCF 3000: Bayingwolf, aren't we all the "heroes" of our own personal dramas?

Bayingwolf: Aww...now I see the path

RBCF 3000: DCizunas, we'll get there, for sure

Bayingwolf: Yes we are...or villains...

RBCF 3000: Bayingwolf, I guess I really mean "protagonists".

Grazhopprr: this is moving right along i see

Bayingwolf:

Bayingwolf: 3000 this is new to me....but I am open and would

Bayingwolf: like to learn about this aspect

RBCF 3000: So the idea is that there is this octave of tranformation

RBCF 3000: of Being, where "lead" is the old material to be

RBCF 3000: transformed in us, that which is heavy and toxic, and

RBCF 3000: "gold" is the end of the progression, that which is

RBCF 3000: valued and precious and full of light, brilliant.

Bayingwolf: it is not what they take...but what I have

Bayingwolf: given......

Akha Apim Iatima: okay

RBCF 3000: Bayingwolf, exactly!

Pewt987: even when we do a good deed, there can be a negative effect on someone

Pewt987: even when we try to be harmless, our simplest actins have ripples

RBCF 3000: Pewt, our responsibility, according to these traditions,

RBCF 3000: is entirely what we put into our actions and intentions.

RBCF 3000: But most of our "help" is from petty ego, it seems.

Lightthght: all you are saying is...it's a inner journey

Bayingwolf:

RBCF 3000: Lightthght, I am saying that for sure, but there is so much more...

DCizunas: Quite interesting to use octave, as each vibrates the same musically

Bayingwolf: Hardest lesson in life to learn....but the only

Bayingwolf: to be learned

Grazhopprr: btw, it is not a "transformation", it is only a remembrance of who we already are now

Lightthght: Graz....you will witness a transformation

RBCF 3000: DCizunas, I took that straight out of Ouspensky's "In Search of the Miraculous"

DCizunas: Will look for that book 3K

Bayingwolf: Graz....it is analizing ourselves and why we do

Bayingwolf: what we do......and not for us...but for others

Bayingwolf: in other words we need to drop the ego trip

Lightthght: oh boy....analyzing....from what foundation?

RBCF 3000: Grazhopprr, turns out that the very ability to

RBCF 3000: Remember takes very special energies and skills.

Mui Turtle: yeah what scales u using to do the talleys on that analizer

Grazhopprr: no skills, no higher or lower beings, just perspectives and desires

Grazhopprr: we took on this fog, this blindness as the test of perspective

RBCF 3000: Bayingwolf, at first we don't have the power and

RBCF 3000: objectivity to "just drop the ego", first of all, because

RBCF 3000: everything is going "through" the ego...

Bayingwolf: exactly 3000

RBCF 3000: ... and second, because we are none of us single-eyed enough to keep the focus required.

Lightthght: Graz....we took this on to test perspective?

Bayingwolf: I am going to enjoy this class

RBCF 3000: Grazhopprr, turns out we can tackle this task from

RBCF 3000: either paradigm, and I'll be going into the pro's and

RBCF 3000: con's of each...

Grazhopprr: are we human or spirit, that perspective.

Lightthght: and not both?

Grazhopprr: not both

Lightthght: I see

RBCF 3000: Grazhopprr, I don't really make a distinction between

RBCF 3000: human and "spirit", and I'll try to show why.

Grazhopprr: it's a choice, such is the hawk or physical being 3k said earlier, that we choose as human

RBCF 3000: All right, friends, let us now go deeper into tonight's

RBCF 3000: lesson. Please hold comments for a few minutes while

RBCF 3000: I roll out this next idea

RBCF 3000: ................................................

RBCF 3000: In the paradigm that I am shaping for us here, it is

RBCF 3000: regarded that man has already fully completed all the

RBCF 3000: evolution that nature intends to provide, but that what

RBCF 3000: nature has provided is sufficient for us ourselves to

RBCF 3000: perform the second half of the evolutionary process--

RBCF 3000: that is, each of us, in the single lifetime that we have available for doing this.

RBCF 3000: .

RBCF 3000: According to this idea, the world that we "know," that

RBCF 3000: is, the world that we *perceive*, we only perceive

RBCF 3000: that way because of our societally ingrained neural

RBCF 3000: structure

RBCF 3000: (referred to in the literature as the "false personality"

RBCF 3000: or the "form of man") and the amount and quality of

RBCF 3000: psychic energy that we can conduct at any given time.

RBCF 3000: .

RBCF 3000: (Also known as "first attention" or "the first ring of power")

RBCF 3000: So, according to secret teachings, religions were

RBCF 3000: invented for the express purpose of gradually

RBCF 3000: (sometimes not-so-gradually!)

RBCF 3000: destroying the societal mould and replacing it with the

RBCF 3000: careful development of our more primitive or organic

RBCF 3000: side, which is directly connected with the Supernatural.

Mui Turtle: thats Castenada sounding 2nd ring of power

RBCF 3000: .

RBCF 3000: While that is going on, rituals are conducted along the

RBCF 3000: way to give a boost to the transformation that the

RBCF 3000: adherants are undergoing, and to create a certain kind

RBCF 3000: of "fire from within"

RBCF 3000: or "violet flame" or "divine current" which, at just the

RBCF 3000: right moment, initiates particular alchemic

RBCF 3000: transformations within the subject who undertakes

RBCF 3000: these ordeals.

RBCF 3000: .

RBCF 3000: This alchemy begins with prolonged inner work which

RBCF 3000: becomes, over the decades of practice, gradually

RBCF 3000: more intense.

RBCF 3000: So all these practices that we like to cynically refer to

RBCF 3000: as "sappy", like selfless service, forgiveness,

RBCF 3000: devotion, absolution, prayer, meditation, humility and

RBCF 3000: all the "-antras" (mantra, tantra, yantra, etc.), all the

RBCF 3000: yogas, renunciations, etc., are actually just a

RBCF 3000: methodical setting up of the alchemist's "laboratory."

RBCF 3000: .

RBCF 3000: Side effects of the alchemy can actually take place

RBCF 3000: within only years of practice, so that the adherants

RBCF 3000: often receive visions and revelations, witness

RBCF 3000: miracles, project astrally, bend spoons or exhibit

RBCF 3000: psychic powers or perform healings, but without

RBCF 3000: permanence nor exact knowledge of what is really

RBCF 3000: happening to them or through them.

RBCF 3000: ******* Here would be a good time to hear from you

RBCF 3000: all about your experiences along these lines, or your

RBCF 3000: thoughts or questions about what happens in these

RBCF 3000: processes and ordeals. Go right ahead now, please --

RBCF 3000: Mui Turtle, yes, you have correctly identified one of

RBCF 3000: the sources of the language I use for these operations.

Bayingwolf: violet flame??? Can you refer a book to me on

Bayingwolf: this subject?

Pewt987: agree with changes after prolonged inner work

Pewt987: violet--highest vibration in color

RBCF 3000: Bayingwolf, I would try Rajneesh's books for that.

Bayingwolf: Thanks _Pewt

Grazhopprr: you can take years to learn this if you like, or in an instant of perspective, it's a choice

DCizunas: What is this space of years in which to receive visions...then what happens?

Bayingwolf: Thanks 3000

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RBCF 3000: Grazhopprr, doesn't the "instant" follow long preparation of some kind?

Grazhopprr: nope

Pewt987: yes

Bayingwolf: 3000 is this as intense as the Kabala???

RBCF 3000: Bayingwolf, the material in the Zohar (Qabbalah) is included in these teachings.

Bayingwolf: I thought so...thanks once again

Grazhopprr: long processes are only needed because humans think they need to work for what they want

Pewt987: to un-do what has been there since childhood takes time

Bayingwolf: and we do Graz....life is complex

RBCF 3000: Grazhopprr, I admit that these qualities are often

RBCF 3000: exhibited by people after Near-Death Experiences or

RBCF 3000: certain kinds of trauma or mental illness, but it is very

RBCF 3000: uncontrolled, impermanent, and often gets abused, I

RBCF 3000: find.

Grazhopprr: human mind makes complications, if you give it up, it's easy

Treeswayen: I am concerned about the trivialization of the Kaballah...

DCizunas: But, Graz, you see children laboring over math concepts to finally......get that instant where they "get it"

Mui Turtle: Graz yes simplistic is the way

Bayingwolf: Graz...Our minds are to let us think and

Bayingwolf: learn...and if closed then life dies

Treeswayen: in traditional study, one is not permitted Kaballah study until one is married and has several children

RBCF 3000: Treeswayen, *everything* gets trivialized, or stilted--

RBCF 3000: that's why all the religions got this way, I think.

Grazhopprr: some mystical schools are just as controling as any religion today, do it our way or no way

Bayingwolf: Graz...and I mean no disrespect ...but why are

Bayingwolf: you here.....if not to learn????????

Mui Turtle: not adding a touch of complicating things

Treeswayen: possibly.. but the power of each symbol is enormous and underrated

RBCF 3000: Grazhopprr, but don't you see a place for discipline and controlled transformation?

Treeswayen: to interact baying... to touch other souls

Bayingwolf: Thanks Trees.

Grazhopprr: 3k, for those who need it, or desire it, it's fine, but not necessary

Pewt987: it is "work" not miracle

Bayingwolf: Graz...our choice

Treeswayen: ::whew:: got graz through the crisis

Lightthght: lol

Grazhopprr: watch me trees, lol

RBCF 3000: Grazhopprr, I always thought I'd end up working alone,

RBCF 3000: or in very small groups, but then I found that I could

RBCF 3000: go much further in esoteric lineages.

DCizunas: Pewt, like Edison said 99 per cen perspiration and 1 percent inspiration

Bayingwolf: faith or spirituality....there is a difference

Treeswayen: sure.. I have faith that eventually I'll say the wrong thing to a lady

Trish0719: Baying, interesting, can u expound

Grazhopprr: if you feel you need to learn from someone more experienced in what you desire, then fine

Grazhopprr: but, not necessary

Treeswayen: we can learn from all... so sayeth the Celestine Prophecy

Treeswayen: or did I misread it?

RBCF 3000: Thank you, gentle friends. Now we come to the

RBCF 3000: dramatic and portentous conclusion of tonight's

RBCF 3000: session. Please hold comments till I've had a chance

RBCF 3000: to roll out the remainder of the prepared text.

RBCF 3000: .............................................................

RBCF 3000: The real alchemy happens after the internal octaves

RBCF 3000: have had a chance to complete and condense-- that

RBCF 3000: is, they form a "material" or "substance" in us which

RBCF 3000: has its own life that is immortal compared to the

RBCF 3000: physical, and its own intelligence which knows

RBCF 3000: wonders directly, its own senses which are much finer

RBCF 3000: and more sensitive than the normal five senses.

RBCF 3000: .

RBCF 3000: If this is allowed to complete properly, the result is a

RBCF 3000: true master-priest, a "winged pharaoh", a "wizard-

RBCF 3000: saint", a "mystical traveler", a "causal Being of the

RBCF 3000: Third Attention."

RBCF 3000: If through temptation or misstep the process is

RBCF 3000: thwarted or perverted for personal, short-sighted

RBCF 3000: gain, especially at another's expense, horrors are the

RBCF 3000: usual result. (So let's not make any mistakes in this

RBCF 3000: class, eh?

RBCF 3000: .

RBCF 3000: Now let's finish with the conundrum that I posed at the

RBCF 3000: beginning of tonight's class: What could be *emotional

RBCF 3000: energies* of a "master-of-time-and-space", like

RBCF 3000: "love", "gratitude" and "forgiveness", if they are not

RBCF 3000: anything like what we think we know as "feelings"?

RBCF 3000: .

RBCF 3000: Can you imagine having so much power, will,

RBCF 3000: knowledge and clarity that a single impulse of LOVE

RBCF 3000: from you creates worlds of exquisite beauty or

RBCF 3000: wretched horror?

RBCF 3000: Can you imagine feeling so much GRATITUDE that not

RBCF 3000: one single person could ever be your enemy, and

RBCF 3000: absolutely everything that can ever occur is beyond

RBCF 3000: the treasures of kings?

RBCF 3000: .

RBCF 3000: And finally, what depth of Forgiveness would you have

RBCF 3000: come to, if soldiers everywhere dropped their guns,

RBCF 3000: bows, spears and maces which, upon touching the

RBCF 3000: ground, turn into plowshares, looms, crafting tools and

RBCF 3000: objects of surpassing beauty, and nations erased their

RBCF 3000: borders, and brothers knew not war any more?

RBCF 3000: (Sorry to wax so biblical-- can't help meself

RBCF 3000: ****** Well, friends, those are the ideas that I'd like

RBCF 3000: you to think about for yourselves. Now let's hear your

RBCF 3000: questions and comments. Go right ahead now, please.

RBCF 3000: The floor is now open for discussion on this entire

RBCF 3000: subject.

Lightthght: is laughter a part of the discipline?

Treeswayen: whew... that took some heavy thinking

Treeswayen: pretty too

Treeswayen: poetry.. nice 3k

Treeswayen: thank you

Bayingwolf: It would be nice if the egos left us.....then

Bayingwolf: understanding would prevail

FlowerJJN: I am just a humble traveler ...

Planetshpr: not quantity, 3K, ("how much" "how deep") but quality.

Planetshpr: there would have to be a dimensionality to the experience that was pure. Just a supposition

Planetshpr: on my part.

RBCF 3000: Planetshpr, I'd love to hear the distinction you are making.

Lightthght: as long as we continue to think the ego is some enemy...it will be

Planetshpr: 3K, the distinction is, the quality of the experience, not the quantity...

FlowerJJN: amen ... Light ...

Bayingwolf: It would be nice for the egos to leave us....then

Bayingwolf: understanding would prevail

Trish0719: 3K, u said u could have so much love it could cause horror, how?

RBCF 3000: Lightthght, I agree-- but what then IS the enemy?

RBCF 3000: What takes so much effort and attention from us, puts

RBCF 3000: us through our agony?

Planetshpr: there is a purityof intent possible at the energetic level... gratitude that is pure, with

Lightthght: Baying...have you ever been without your ego?

Planetshpr: no self-interest involved, for example.

Bayingwolf: yes Light

Planetshpr: this is strictly conjecture on my part, of course.

FlowerJJN: The ego is the basic essence of who we are ....

RBCF 3000: Trish, because of the impeccability it takes to channel

RBCF 3000: pure love-- that's why we have to get so gosh-danged

RBCF 3000: quiet and humble.

FlowerJJN: :):):) Yes ... 3000

Bayingwolf: I agree 3000

RBCF 3000: Planetshpr, you're doing great! Keep it up.

Trish0719: oh, so it's the energy that could cause destruction?

Mui Turtle: Yes it was no mistaken part given to every human being, an ego was not meant to be squashed

RBCF 3000: Mui Turtle, then are we the victim of the "ego-squashers"?

RBCF 3000: Trish, IMO

Mui Turtle: but tempered to a point of receptivity

Grazhopprr: the ego is us, we are only foggy. perspective is the key, not holding ego back, but

Grazhopprr: realization

Trish0719: i see, it makes sense now

Bayingwolf: Planet my ego left when I realized it is not

Bayingwolf: what they take.....but what I give

RBCF 3000: Grazhopprr, how then do we get UNfoggy?

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Bayingwolf: I agree Light...

Planetshpr: and mine surrendered, Baying, when I accepted that all of my actions are rooted in self-

Planetshpr: interest.

Lightthght: as does denial

Lightthght: yes...surrender and squashed are quite different

Bayingwolf: I surrendered too Planet...and it was the hardest

Bayingwolf: lesson to learn

Planetshpr: indeed, Baying. and perhaps the reason why this path is pursued by so few, in the end.

Bayingwolf: exactly Planet.....

FlowerJJN: I learned that I am just a small dot ... at the bottom of a large mountain :)

DunRanull: to what exactly, are we surrendering?

Planetshpr: a lovely question, Dun. For me, to the best of my ability, I surrender to what IS.

RBCF 3000: DunRanull, maybe that's a matter of personal predilection...

Trish0719: is't that what all this about, loving while differing

Lightthght: to man's idea of what it is to transform our lives and become One with the energy of kings

DunRanull: surrendering the heart to god, like?

Grazhopprr: Jesus used the term "my father", that was in reference to the completeness of his spirit

Grazhopprr: that is what he surrendered to

RBCF 3000: to some, it's their own High Self, to others, maybe the Christ or the Buddha. ...

RBCF 3000: ... To an atheist or an existentialist, just to "what is", eh?

DunRanull: hmmm...

RBCF 3000: DunRanull, yes, if that notion pulls you along your path.

FlowerJJN: Does it really matter ... 3000

RBCF 3000: FlowerJJN, all that matters to me, is *getting there*

Grazhopprr: realization of your own personal source of life is all that is needed, releasing your

Grazhopprr: control

DunRanull: and where is there, then?

FlowerJJN: :):) 3000 ... but where is there

RBCF 3000: DunRanull, "there then" = Here/Now

DunRanull: lol

RBCF 3000: Next week: "Awakeness in dreaming attention. Setting

RBCF 3000: up trance states." Please continue whatever daily

RBCF 3000: practices you are doing -- we'll be using everything

RBCF 3000: that results from them.

RBCF 3000: These include stopping the internal dialogue; listening,

RBCF 3000: tasting and feeling on deep, synaesthesic levels;

RBCF 3000: dream and trance work; and consistent meditations of

RBCF 3000: different kinds.

Bayingwolf: Graz I feel it is more than that....learning to

Bayingwolf: live with giving without resentment

RBCF 3000: All the previous eleven logues are downloadable from

RBCF 3000: keyword "New Age" Library II, if you missed any of the

RBCF 3000: previous classes, and tonight's logue (#12) will be

RBCF 3000: available within the next week.

Bayingwolf: 3000 thanks for tonight....and thanks for

Bayingwolf: touching my life

Grazhopprr: baying, that happens automatically.

FlowerJJN: Acceptance is a great word ... Baying :)

Bayingwolf: no it does not Graz

Galaxon: 3k just did

DCizunas: Yes, thank you 3K...good class as always

RBCF 3000: Bayingwolf, thank you for your great comments.

Bayingwolf: Thanks Flower

Grazhopprr: ok :o)

DCizunas: Night all

RBCF 3000: DCizunas, I feel you growing constantly.

Planetshpr: {S thunderousapplause} 3K

Bayingwolf: I will get that book 3000....then watch

Bayingwolf: out...hehehehe

RBCF 3000: Please email me if you would like my weekly updates

RBCF 3000: emailed direct to you. Thank you all for participating

RBCF 3000: with us today.

RBCF 3000: Bayingwolf, it's truly an amazing book -- lots of schools work out of that book.

DunRanull: what book do speak of?

Bayingwolf: and I will also 3000

Lorinaz: thank you

RBCF 3000: DunRanull, "In Search of the Miraculous" by Ouspensky

RBCF 3000: Tonight we also worked from ideas in Castaneda's

RBCF 3000: books "Tales of Power" and "The Eagle's Gift"

Bayingwolf: Graz our paths always mean searching.....what

Planetshpr: metaphysics goes where psychology has not yet dared.

Planetshpr: no surprises there.

FlowerJJN: The more I learn and see .. the more I realize how much there is to learn ...

Planetshpr: Dun... got me on that one, dintcha! GoodONE!

Planetshpr: 3K, that reminds me to ask you ... a book referral for a beginner, on archetypes?

RBCF 3000: Planetshpr, I think Joseph Campbell has a good one,

RBCF 3000: but I can't think of the name of it right now.

Planetshpr: nice, 3K. that should be easy...

DunRanull: Oh i know...

FlowerJJN: The Power Of Myth 3000 ??

RBCF 3000: FlowerJJN, is that one good for archetypes?

Vishal: Omshanti divine bros n sistrs,souls that are engaged in dialogue of truth

RBCF 3000: Vishal, sat nam

Galaxon: what a concept

FlowerJJN: Perhaps .... cannot remember now ... 3000 ..

Vishal: Gala,plz share your attainment of the recent class with me

Log Count: There were 18 member(s) in The New Age at 08:30 PM

Vishal: can anyone else share on how the class benefited them?

Planetshpr: no scheduled chat, the conversation tends to be more serious.

Planetshpr: or shall we say.... sincere.

Bayingwolf: Peace and Harmony room....3000 thanks again for

Bayingwolf: this class....and Heart ...well you Know I Love Ya......

Vishal: Heart ,what did u attain from the class?

HOST LFST Heart: usually re-read after we finish.....but I do

HOST LFST Heart: feel a great energy from this room and chat

Planetshpr: Flower, I will be exploring the possibilities and places I haven't been, in aol, for awhile

Planetshpr: yet!

DunRanull: Graz, life experience well shared is good teaching, ya know.

FlowerJJN: :):) Planet ... all I meant was that those that want to . would have choices ...

RBCF 3000: Ok, friends, I feel complete for tonight. Remember to

RBCF 3000: do your homework, so we can move right into next

RBCF 3000: week's seminar: "Awakeness in dreaming attention.

RBCF 3000: Setting up trance states."

Planetshpr: ah, I see, Flower. thanks.

RBCF 3000: Tonight's logue (#12) will be available within the next

RBCF 3000: week. Please email me if you would like my weekly

RBCF 3000: updates emailed direct to you.

Grazhopprr: it's just the terminology that makes me giggle, not the content, heh

HOST LFST Heart: @}---->-------{RBCF 3000}-------<----{@

Vishal: Heart,plz share in a nutshell todays churnings in the class

Planetshpr: nah, 3K, then you'll expect us to READ 'em!!! roflmao!

HOST LFST Heart: Vishal.....that is something I will have digest......

RBCF 3000: <-- likes paradoxes-- helps move the mind up a level.

Mui Turtle: There is an intrinsic knowing a native american elder bestowed upon me, if after viewing

Mui Turtle: its doesn't flow like the river ... its not something you need to move along your path

Mui Turtle: secondly if when confronted something brings doubts or seccond thinking it is your signal to

Mui Turtle: halt and not do that

Planetshpr: not at all, Turtle... simply a signal to take a deeper look.

Planetshpr: for me.

Planetshpr: I may have an automatic belief or some old program, fear, etc.

Mui Turtle: it has proved useful in the realm of the mystical and nonmystic

Mui Turtle:

HOST LFST Heart: Namaste' all

RBCF 3000: Thank you all for participating with us today.

Planetshpr: Night Heart! Thanks!

RBCF 3000: For those who would like to prepare a little for next

RBCF 3000: week, try keeping a dream journal this week, ok?

Mui Turtle: Planet that could be the reason you are not an elder yet also

UNANA: <~ kept dream journal since 1967

Magycian: Shall we write it in the morning or before bed, lol?

FlowerJJN: {{{{{{{{{{{3000}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}

RBCF 3000: Good night, I'll be back Wednesday at midnight, with Arwen. <poof>