Ecstatic Awareness #19 -- "Secret Keys"

 

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HOST LFST Heart:    I am so glad the chats have been enjoyable

Melinda00000: hi 3K 

Sndynasty:         ahhhh, 3K, now explain the topic

HOST LFST Heart:    welcome 3000

HOST LFST Intent:    Greetings RB3000

HOST LFST RB3000:            Welcome, everyone -- tonight is our nineteenth class

HOST LFST RB3000:            in Ecstatic Awareness. This evening's subject is "Secret

HOST LFST RB3000:            keys, programs and maps embedded in the DNA, the

HOST LFST RB3000:            horoscope and the gridlines of the world."

Mui Turtle:        motivates a transference from one mind onto the collective minds

HOST LFST RB3000:            Once again, for those who are joining us for the first

HOST LFST RB3000:            time, the way we are using the term "ecstatic

HOST LFST RB3000:            awareness" here means entering into states of

HOST LFST RB3000:            consciousness, accompanied by transformation of

HOST LFST RB3000:            being, in which the supernatural and the Miraculous

HOST LFST RB3000:            can be witnessed and experienced directly.

 

HOST LFST RB3000:            Note: this is the 19th session of a 25-week class series,

HOST LFST RB3000:            and it is the last public session that we will hold here in

HOST LFST RB3000:            the New Age Forum room. Those who wish to continue

HOST LFST RB3000:            are encouraged to read the logs of the previous

HOST LFST RB3000:            sessions (either in New Age Library II or use the links in

HOST LFST RB3000:            the web news), and then register (by emailing me) for

HOST LFST RB3000:            the remaining six sessions, which will be held in private

HOST LFST RB3000:            rooms whose name will be announced to registrants

HOST LFST RB3000:            prior to each session. The first of those private

HOST LFST RB3000:            sessions will be two weeks from tonight, same time:

HOST LFST RB3000:            11:00 - midnight or so, EST.

HOST LFST RB3000:            .

HOST LFST RB3000:            Just to get you started thinking about tonight's

HOST LFST RB3000:            featured presentation, I'll list off right now some of the

HOST LFST RB3000:            popular movies that describe or utilize the concepts

HOST LFST RB3000:            we'll be talking about:

HOST LFST RB3000:            The "Indiana Jones" movies, "The Matrix", "Sphere",

HOST LFST RB3000:            "They Live", "Jacob's Ladder", "Contact", "The Matrix",

HOST LFST RB3000:            "Resurrection", "Altered States" and "Total Recall," and

HOST LFST RB3000:            also many episodes of The Twilight Zone, The Outer

HOST LFST RB3000:            Limits, Stargate SG-1, Kung Fu and Star Trek.

HOST LFST RB3000:            So, before we begin, does anyone have general questions or comments at this point?

 

HOST LFST RB3000:            Ok, friends, let's begin tonight's class: "Secret keys,

HOST LFST RB3000:            programs and maps embedded in the DNA, the

HOST LFST RB3000:            horoscope and the gridlines of the world."  I admit,

HOST LFST RB3000:            even to pose such a topic requires the assumption that

HOST LFST RB3000:            the world is somehow a systematic construct devised

HOST LFST RB3000:            by some kind of Master Intelligence, rather than an

HOST LFST RB3000:            "agglomerate of bumps" as our current priests of

HOST LFST RB3000:            science would have us believe.

HOST LFST RB3000:            .

HOST LFST RB3000:            Have you heard the expression, "the world IS whatever

HOST LFST RB3000:            you think it is"?  That really is not referring to the

HOST LFST RB3000:            "thinking" that goes on in our heads all day, which even

HOST LFST RB3000:            charitably is rumination, at best. Unfortunately, most

HOST LFST RB3000:            of our "thinking" is repetitious chatter about how unfair

HOST LFST RB3000:            everything is, and about what "I need, I want."

HOST LFST RB3000:            .

HOST LFST RB3000:            But for a warrior, a sorcerer, a shaman, a man-of-

HOST LFST RB3000:            knowledge or a seer, the world-flux starts conforming

HOST LFST RB3000:            to one's proper intent, which involves an unbending

HOST LFST RB3000:            focus of attention. The remaining fragments of ancient

HOST LFST RB3000:            teachings indicate that it is possible not only to witness

HOST LFST RB3000:            the nature of the flux of which everything is made, but

HOST LFST RB3000:            to "manipulate" it-- in quotes because it is not done

HOST LFST RB3000:            with any hands, but with the attention itself.

HOST LFST RB3000:            .

HOST LFST RB3000:            That brings us to the point of tonight's topic-- why we

HOST LFST RB3000:            need clues, maps, keys, instruments, tools, magnifiers,

HOST LFST RB3000:            allies and communication with anyone who may have

HOST LFST RB3000:            succeeded before us.  I should explain here why the

HOST LFST RB3000:            procedure of honing the attention to operate the flux of

HOST LFST RB3000:            space-time is described as a journey or a treasure

HOST LFST RB3000:            hunt.

HOST LFST RB3000:            .

HOST LFST RB3000:            The search I am describing is the quest for the holy

HOST LFST RB3000:            grail, el Dourado, the gold at the end of the rainbow,

HOST LFST RB3000:            but these are all just metaphors for the search for the

HOST LFST RB3000:            Self, that which we once had, but which, in many

HOST LFST RB3000:            cases, is not totally lost.  How could we have lost

HOST LFST RB3000:            ourself?  I am me, aren't I?  Can't I just look into the

HOST LFST RB3000:            mirror and know who I am?  Can't I just decide to be all

HOST LFST RB3000:            my possibilities?

HOST LFST RB3000:            .

HOST LFST RB3000:            My answer is, as you might expect, "yes and no."  Yes,

HOST LFST RB3000:            because, at least for someone who is seeking, the

HOST LFST RB3000:            doorway is still there, but it is rusted shut, it is locked,

HOST LFST RB3000:            it is hidden among a thousand other doorways, and the

HOST LFST RB3000:            map to it has been misplaced.  Furthermore, the

HOST LFST RB3000:            language of the map has been forgotten, and all

HOST LFST RB3000:            information relating to it has been misconstrued and

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HOST LFST RB3000:            tangled with extraneous notions.

HOST LFST RB3000:            .

HOST LFST RB3000:            I know, I am still using more metaphors to "explain"

HOST LFST RB3000:            metaphors, but I want to give you a sense of what we

HOST LFST RB3000:            are up against. But apparently (for those who need to

HOST LFST RB3000:            see it) there is help.  Messages have been left for us,

HOST LFST RB3000:            but they are never in plaintext.  I used to wonder why

HOST LFST RB3000:            they couldn't be plain information, and I came across

HOST LFST RB3000:            several levels of answers to that.

HOST LFST RB3000:            .

HOST LFST RB3000:            The first level is that the information is not for the

HOST LFST RB3000:            "intellect", or what has become of our intellect.  You

HOST LFST RB3000:            can say, as don Juan does, that the information we

HOST LFST RB3000:            need is a transaction between the "position of reason

HOST LFST RB3000:            and the position of silent knowledge."

HOST LFST RB3000:            He is referring here to configurations of our attention. 

HOST LFST RB3000:            He says that, at one time, the position of silent

HOST LFST RB3000:            knowledge was dominant for mankind, even though

HOST LFST RB3000:            most people were never precisely on that position. 

HOST LFST RB3000:            Usually a priest or medicine person would hold that

HOST LFST RB3000:            position for the whole tribe.

HOST LFST RB3000:            .

HOST LFST RB3000:            We passed through the period when the dominant

HOST LFST RB3000:            position was "reason" and, here again, most people

HOST LFST RB3000:            sort of orbitted about this position.  In this case, the

HOST LFST RB3000:            priests have been scientists or, more properly, the

HOST LFST RB3000:            conservators of the scientific establishment. But now

HOST LFST RB3000:            these new priests are falling off the edge of reason: the

HOST LFST RB3000:            abyss of the Unknown gapes before them.

HOST LFST RB3000:            .

HOST LFST RB3000:            I should point out that there is a descriptor for those

HOST LFST RB3000:            orbiting the position of reason, and that is that they

HOST LFST RB3000:            (we) are run neither by reason nor by silent

HOST LFST RB3000:            knowledge, but by chatter.  Even PhDs, philosophers

HOST LFST RB3000:            and world leaders are enslaved to the "position" of the

HOST LFST RB3000:            chatter of self-pity or, as Gurdjieff puts it, "internal

HOST LFST RB3000:            considering."

HOST LFST RB3000:            .

HOST LFST RB3000:            The second level of answer is that those who have

HOST LFST RB3000:            gone before us have entered a differently phased

HOST LFST RB3000:            dimensionality.

HOST LFST RB3000:            Any Star Trek fan will immediately understand this, but

HOST LFST RB3000:            another good example would be that current

HOST LFST RB3000:            knowledge that someone travelling at a significant

HOST LFST RB3000:            fraction of the speed of light will have trouble staying in

HOST LFST RB3000:            communication with someone still on earth, because of

HOST LFST RB3000:            relativity-- time slows down, approaching zero as the

HOST LFST RB3000:            person's velocity approaches the speed of light.  A few

HOST LFST RB3000:            minutes aboard ship is a lifetime on earth.

HOST LFST RB3000:            .

HOST LFST RB3000:            Actually the problem is much worse than that. The

HOST LFST RB3000:            abstract symbols of higher dimensionalities "stand out

HOST LFST RB3000:            from the page."  Imagine taking an illustration out of a

HOST LFST RB3000:            book, showing a diagram of a computer or an engine to

HOST LFST RB3000:            some tribesperson who has never seen either a book or

HOST LFST RB3000:            a machine.  You will shout at them, "but can't you see

HOST LFST RB3000:            how this works?!"  And all they will see is lines and

HOST LFST RB3000:            shadings on a piece of paper.

HOST LFST RB3000:            .

HOST LFST RB3000:            What function could those have?  The person may have

HOST LFST RB3000:            a wonderful understanding of animal tracks or where to

HOST LFST RB3000:            find edible roots, but they have no categories for the

HOST LFST RB3000:            perception of what you are trying to show them.

HOST LFST RB3000:            .

HOST LFST RB3000:            ****** This might be a good place to stop and discuss

HOST LFST RB3000:            how we have been enslaved to this chatter, how it has

HOST LFST RB3000:            ruined our lives, and how successful we have been in

HOST LFST RB3000:            fighting against it. Also, please feel free to ask about

HOST LFST RB3000:            anything I've said so far that you may not understand

HOST LFST RB3000:            completely.  Go ahead now, please-- open floor

HOST LFST RB3000:            ...................

Mui Turtle:        and all this time i thot that was called inner dialogue

HOST LFST RB3000:            Mui Turtle, you can continue calling it that-- fine with me.

Lesuire suit man:         I'm confused

HOST LFST RB3000:            Lesuire suit man, just hang on for a little bit, and I

HOST LFST RB3000:            promise you'll be *way* more confused! 

Mui Turtle:        forgive our extranous notions those rise sometimes about "what are we doing"

Mui Turtle:        3k are you sure this is not a play on "Zen and Art of Archery"?

HOST LFST RB3000:            Mui Turtle, once again, thanks for the reminder-- I'll add that to my book list.

Mui Turtle:        never hitting center on any one point

Lesuire suit man:         is this  2ndattention of  Toltec and "Art of Dreaming"?

SloRain:            RB...but you can still attempt descriptions...

Mahavir810816108:    In each one of us there is a subtle desire to have a vision

HOST LFST RB3000:            Lesuire suit man, maybe, assuming we both

HOST LFST RB3000:            understand what we mean by "2nd attention" which I

HOST LFST RB3000:            doubt either of us does.

LunaticZen:      host:  can the  "chatter"  be a positive thing?

Mui Turtle:        is that an unpure vision

Mahavir810816108:    This subtle desire is an obstacle in itself to progress in spirituality

Mahavir810816108:    some have desires to have a vision of an angel

Mahavir810816108:    some have a desire to have a vision of the holy father

HOST LFST RB3000:            SloRain, yes, it is my proper gesture of folly.

Lesuire suit man:         ok like  ancients from space and Toltec dreamers   and soundscript

Mui Turtle:        filled with desires of lust for tv shows

HOST LFST RB3000:            LunaticZen, sure-- everything teaches us, right?  But it

HOST LFST RB3000:            is the enslavement to it which it is our task to fight

HOST LFST RB3000:            against, it seems.

Stingraybiker:    So is DNA memory

Mahavir810816108:    some have the desire to have a vision of  Jesus Christ

Mahavir810816108:    some of guru nanak

Mahavir810816108:    some of krishna

Mui Turtle:        which are unpure and who is to say Mahavir

LunaticZen:      host:  you ask to talk of how chatter has "enslaved, ruined lives, and/or  how we fight it"

LunaticZen:      that sounds    not positive

SloRain:            ...can we take reason with us?...a more evolutioned kind of reason...

HOST LFST RB3000:            Mahavir, do you know, I was getting visions about that

HOST LFST RB3000:            very question on my drive home today.

Stingraybiker:    Are we all linked to DNA by memory?

LunaticZen:      seems  very  aggressive

LunaticZen:      do your thoughts  spring from love, host?

Mui Turtle:        its splendid with pace of mighty macro requires swift motion of mind

Mui Turtle:        slippery when wet

HOST LFST RB3000:            LunaticZen, well, hasn't it ruined our life?  We decide

HOST LFST RB3000:            one thing, but then we have to "justify" our "honor" or

HOST LFST RB3000:            "defend our children" or some such, right?

Mahavir810816108:    3000,its ok if we receive the gift of a vision from GOD ,but we must not make a bargain with GOD and challenge him

HOST LFST RB3000:            Stingraybiker, yes, but not what we ordinarily mean by "memory"

LunaticZen:      i do not feel need to "justify"  we would have to consider specifics i think

LunaticZen:      also  i would mention  i keep my priests and scientists separate 

Mui Turtle:        Mahavir how does tantric sex fall into that scheme

Mahavir810816108:    by saying only if i m bestowed with a vision i shall belong to u

Stingraybiker:    Is DNA a map of experiences?

HOST LFST RB3000:            Mahavir, why not?  As a Jew, I come from a long

HOST LFST RB3000:            history of bargainers with God.  Even Moses bargained

HOST LFST RB3000:            for ten "free" commandments, eh?

LunaticZen:      seperate  even

Mahavir810816108:    mui,ant form of bodiconsciousness is impure

LunaticZen:      but  they do tend to merge

LunaticZen:      perhaps it is the future course

HOST LFST RB3000:            LunaticZen, see if you can go an hour without justifying

HOST LFST RB3000:            some position, decision, lie, compromise or aggression

HOST LFST RB3000:            you've done.

Stingraybiker:    Is the godhead the end result of DNA?

SloRain:            Why are are bodies impure?

LunaticZen:      i believe  i do   host  respectfully

Mahavir810816108:    3000,al the bargaining start in the unlimited night of this eternal world wheel drama

HOST LFST RB3000:            Stingraybiker, I'd say yes, and also vice versa! 

Burgess702:      Stingraybiker...doubt it...probably vice versa

LunaticZen:      i am  blessed

Mahavir810816108:    3000,to be a resident in the day of this unlimited world wheel drama

Mahavir810816108:    we have to become true GODLY students now

HOST LFST RB3000:            LunaticZen, I understand, but how about just as an experiment...?

HOST LFST Intent:    I don't know, Slo, why?

Stingraybiker:    So consciousness was and is DNA?

HOST LFST RB3000:            Mahavir, of course-- and we are still bargaining, aren't we?

HOST LFST Intent:    Slo, don't know, why?

Mui Turtle:        so if we sweep all this in a pile it would equal , creativity of imaginary unpure minds

LunaticZen:      host  we would have to agree on definition of  "justify"

Mahavir810816108:    3000,this is quite different

LunaticZen:      i don't think that gonna happen

HOST LFST RB3000:            Mahavir, I don't trust any two-legged to say what is "godly" and what is not "godly"

Mahavir810816108:    3000,this is the claiming of your own birthright from the highest, holiest and richest piritual father

HOST LFST RB3000:            Stingraybiker, no-- but I'll be getting into that later.

LunaticZen:      i believe i do not now ever feel need to "justify"

Stingraybiker:    Tonite?

HOST LFST RB3000:            Mahavir, yes, that is exactly what it is, and don't we

HOST LFST RB3000:            bargain it away for a "mess of pottage"?

LunaticZen:      host  your thoughts  are very Fritjoff Capra-ish  you have read?

SloRain:            Some made comment body knowledge is impure...I wonder why>

Mahavir810816108:    3000, you have very good impression of GOD as he is

Mui Turtle:        having done the right thing i can now shhh and nibble wild cherries

HOST LFST RB3000:            LunaticZen, yes, that's in my book list.

LunaticZen:      i detect a strain  that is

Mahavir810816108:    3000, GOD is an incorporeal being of light and might

LunaticZen:      host  i think  the physics  and cosmology  has surpassed need for...

LunaticZen:      the metaphysical allusions

LunaticZen:      and psycho hocus pocus  the Science  is pure magic in itself  agree?

HOST LFST RB3000:            Mahavir, how do you know this-- have you seen god in the zoo or something?

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Stingraybiker:    Varnatmik?

Mahavir810816108:    3000, GOD cannot be seen with these physical eyes

Mui Turtle:        there are some sightings of bleeding statues at the zoo

Mui Turtle:        but that was poor taxidermy

LunaticZen:      who we got here  :::squints eyes:::

HOST LFST RB3000:            Mahavir, that's my very point-- let's not say what god

HOST LFST RB3000:            is and is not, ok?  Each of us has to experience for

HOST LFST RB3000:            ourselves, right?

MaranthaZ:       {{{{{Roomies}}}}}}}

LunaticZen:      pseudo  that was

Mahavir810816108:    3000, we can experience GOD thru power of purity

LunaticZen:      experience   good word

Mui Turtle:        purity according to garp?

LunaticZen:      one we can all agree on

HOST LFST RB3000:            LunaticZen, I am not sure I am agreeing till I

HOST LFST RB3000:            understand what you said-- if it's re "The Tao of

HOST LFST RB3000:            Physics" , then yes.

Stingraybiker:    Is the sound current wrapped around itsself like aribbon in a bow?

Mahavir810816108:    3000, have u fixed a date for this happening?

SloRain:            Some of us here don't believe in a god....

Stingraybiker:    Like the chain of DNA?

HOST LFST RB3000:            Stingraybiker, that's a nice way to put it, but remember

HOST LFST RB3000:            it's all metaphors, not exactly like this or that, right?

LunaticZen:      rb  yes   thats the book to which i referred

Mahavir810816108:    slo, such souls are refered to as atheists of today

Mahavir810816108:    3000, to experience GOD as he is

Mui Turtle:        ok to not believe in things but not ok to deny your DNA has made it with your RNA

HOST LFST Heart:    maranthaZ on topic please

HOST LFST RB3000:            Mahavir, yes, the date and the hour is *NOW*! 

Mahavir810816108:    3000, I have so much respect for u

LunaticZen:      < agrees date and time is Now

HOST LFST RB3000:            ***** Wonderful, dear friends.  Now we are on-track to

HOST LFST RB3000:            tackle the second portion of tonight's subject, which let

HOST LFST RB3000:            us call, "The nature of the treasures we are attempting

HOST LFST RB3000:            to collect."  Once again, please hold comments and

HOST LFST RB3000:            questions until I have completed the next set of ideas

HOST LFST RB3000:            for your consideration.

HOST LFST RB3000:            .

LunaticZen:      this is a  "class"   ?  that makes me a "student"  here?

HOST LFST RB3000:            LunaticZen, nah-- it makes you someone who fell in thru the door.

LunaticZen:      heehee

LunaticZen:      yes rb  i can handle it tho

HOST LFST RB3000:            As I left you with a minute ago, we need to embrace

HOST LFST RB3000:            concepts and abstracts that we have no categories for.

HOST LFST RB3000:            But categories are related to talking, to words, or at

HOST LFST RB3000:            least descriptions of some kind.  This is where silent

HOST LFST RB3000:            knowledge comes in and shines. Silent knowledge is a

HOST LFST RB3000:            combination of direct perception with no preconceived

HOST LFST RB3000:            categories (not quite so, but close enough) and one's

HOST LFST RB3000:            *power*.

HOST LFST RB3000:            .

HOST LFST RB3000:            In some schools and lineages, instead of "power", they

HOST LFST RB3000:            might use "being" or "caboclos" or holiness (whole-I-

HOST LFST RB3000:            ness?) to describe what I am calling "power" here. The

HOST LFST RB3000:            point is that, like a laser beam, it takes an attention of

HOST LFST RB3000:            pure intent, of the whole of the Self, to change reality.

HOST LFST RB3000:            That should not surprise us terribly, in view of how

HOST LFST RB3000:            strong and persistent the standard world view is, and

HOST LFST RB3000:            in view of how diffuse and contradictory our normal

HOST LFST RB3000:            consciousness proves to be.

HOST LFST RB3000:            .

HOST LFST RB3000:            In previous classes, we spoke about methods for

HOST LFST RB3000:            cleaning and attuning our attention. We haven't gone

HOST LFST RB3000:            into the cultivation of Power very much, mainly

HOST LFST RB3000:            because this class is too short -- by a few decades! --

HOST LFST RB3000:            to "teach" it, so we are going on the assumption that

HOST LFST RB3000:            whoever comes along with us here somehow already

HOST LFST RB3000:            has enough of it to at least appreciate the issues

HOST LFST RB3000:            involved.

HOST LFST RB3000:            .

HOST LFST RB3000:            So we "have" the position of Silent Knowledge, and we

HOST LFST RB3000:            have Power. Now what else do we still need for our

HOST LFST RB3000:            treasure hunt?  We need to identify the instructions for

HOST LFST RB3000:            how to operate reality, we need to learn its

HOST LFST RB3000:            language(s), we need to understand what the clues

HOST LFST RB3000:            and landmarks represent, and we need timing, which

HOST LFST RB3000:            means enough energy to sustain a patient urgency. 

HOST LFST RB3000:            That actually is the original meaning of "k'ung fu."

HOST LFST RB3000:            .

HOST LFST RB3000:            "Identify the instructions" -- these are absolutely

HOST LFST RB3000:            everywhere!  Scripture, mythology, societal

HOST LFST RB3000:            structures, dreams, even messages that appear in a

HOST LFST RB3000:            flash on billboards, only to be instantly replaced by

HOST LFST RB3000:            what "should" be there instead. A beggar on the street

HOST LFST RB3000:            my have an important part of the message for you.

HOST LFST RB3000:            .

HOST LFST RB3000:            But they are all mixed up and covered by the cobwebs

HOST LFST RB3000:            and crud of the chatter of self-pity-- and that is a clue

HOST LFST RB3000:            right there, because "self-pity" is strong enough and

HOST LFST RB3000:            persistant enough to manipulate reality to cover up the

HOST LFST RB3000:            truth, or at least conceal it from us.

HOST LFST RB3000:            .

HOST LFST RB3000:            "Learn the language" -- it should not astonish you to

HOST LFST RB3000:            hear that this is mainly done by listening with silent

HOST LFST RB3000:            mind. Do it long enough, and something in us may

HOST LFST RB3000:            open, a sort of decoding and translating mechanism

HOST LFST RB3000:            that we had not the slightest idea was there in us.

HOST LFST RB3000:            .

HOST LFST RB3000:            "Understand the clues and landmarks" -- similar to the

HOST LFST RB3000:            above, but this is more like "seeing without looking" or

HOST LFST RB3000:            a somehow more passive, and yet more active,

HOST LFST RB3000:            method of perception, than the normal way that we

HOST LFST RB3000:            "look" our expectations into existence.  This is the

HOST LFST RB3000:            Witness, that in us which registers the inconceivable

HOST LFST RB3000:            and somehow knows how to sort through it. That is why

HOST LFST RB3000:            we talked about the interaction between reason and

HOST LFST RB3000:            knowledge.

HOST LFST RB3000:            .

HOST LFST RB3000:            ******* Ok, friends-- let's hear what experiences you

HOST LFST RB3000:            have had with noticing clues, observing flashes, finding

HOST LFST RB3000:            messages, or noticing some faculty in yourself that is

HOST LFST RB3000:            not part of your conditioning.  Go right ahead now,

HOST LFST RB3000:            please-- open floor. 

LunaticZen:      very interesting  rb

LunaticZen:      is this  your writing?

LunaticZen:      your thoughts?

HOST LFST Intent:    RB3000, I have found that stopping the internal chatter has lead to all

HOST LFST Intent:    sorts of paranormal activities...

HOST LFST RB3000:            Intent, like what?

Mui Turtle:        conditioning is done by tv and those shows you mentioned 3k its not very realistic to allow

Mui Turtle:        such things into ones mind constantly

HOST LFST Intent:    I can *see* the essence of items many times....Read peoples thoughts, etc.

Mui Turtle:        some here actually believe that mess

LunaticZen:      o please

LunaticZen:      read my thoughts  intent

HOST LFST Intent:    Zen, hmmm....:))

Mui Turtle:        give some nonfiction instead

Mui Turtle:        it has a grip

HOST LFST RB3000:            Mui Turtle, of course you are right, but we are

HOST LFST RB3000:            surrounded and infused with conditioning!  (You'd think

HOST LFST RB3000:            my hair would look better, eh?)  So it is within our

HOST LFST RB3000:            conditioning, somewhere, that we can find what we

HOST LFST RB3000:            need, maybe...?

LunaticZen:      < is repeating movie title over and over

HOST LFST Intent:    Zen, have you ever had a clairvoiant moment?

LunaticZen:      intent  yes  i think so

LunaticZen:      i don't dispute  the general concept

LunaticZen:      but  in my attempt at Balance  i lean more towards scientific

LunaticZen:      but id love to be proved wrong

HOST LFST Intent:    Has anyone had dreams or visions that ended up coming true?

Andreaaspn:      think I came in too late -- not sure what conditioning is other than goop in hair

Andreaaspn:      I think we all have Intent

HOST LFST RB3000:            Andreaaspn, it's a semi-formal class on "Ecstatic Awareness"

Mui Turtle:        I do not think

Mui Turtle:        it has its advantages

HOST LFST Intent:    Andrea, the daily conditioning of our lives.....EVERYTHING we encounter...

Andreaaspn:      thank you Intent

Mui Turtle:        so they begin from a unsettled foundation

Mui Turtle:        subject to any interpretations

FoxesTruth:      Andrea.sounds like something artificial eh?

RochelleDo:      There is so much to indicate that the time may be at hand

Andreaaspn:      :) well, I know I've told you guys before, but I think one of the great challenges of our

Andreaaspn:      time is to balance the 9-5 conditioning

Andreaaspn:      with our own quest for mysticim or spiritual evolution

Andreaaspn:      or development

LunaticZen:      rb  i dont get why ya choose another shallow example of peoples perceptions re  marketing

Andreaaspn:      or enlightenment -- whatever you wanna call it

HOST LFST RB3000:            RochelleDo, the time for what?

RochelleDo:      awww, 3k time for now to be real for us?

LunaticZen:      many are beyond that stage... not everyone is thinking" their hair looks awful" etc.

LunaticZen:      but i like your style  and you are very stimulating re Mind

Sumwhitm:        Are you talking about truth and taking responsiblity for our own choices?

HOST LFST Intent:    Sum, yes

FoxesTruth:      Adndrea...yes trying to remain in a higher minded

FoxesTruth:      dimension while being constantly brought into the

FoxesTruth:      3rd dimension reality

HOST LFST RB3000:            Andreaaspn, why must it be "either-or"???  Isn't

HOST LFST RB3000:            *everything* we do within our spirituality?

Andreaaspn:      of course 3000 -- that is the balance

LunaticZen:      and nice  to phrase as questions

LunaticZen:      with smileys  =)

RochelleDo:      cant beat balance :}

Andreaaspn:      yep Foxes

LunaticZen:      heehee  so    Im bein  *good

Fairy Flight 19:            we should all take responsibility for our own lives... we are all connected.

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Mui Turtle:        yes but they have to chain 3k to the floor during events

Andreaaspn:      ohh I like that Fairy

Mui Turtle:        to keep from flying off in space

FoxesTruth:      yes Fairy....agreed...........

HOST LFST Intent:    LOL MUI

Mui Turtle:       

LunaticZen:      everything  is Spirituality  agreed

LunaticZen:      all is  One Spirit

FoxesTruth:      Fairy...that takes care  of Duality eh???

HOST LFST RB3000:            LunaticZen, I had to learn to follow everything with

HOST LFST RB3000:            smileys-- everyone thought I was harsh till I did that,

HOST LFST RB3000:            but it's just intensity, I hope.

RochelleDo:      only if you allow it

LunaticZen:      i think you're right rb

RochelleDo:      it it is right for you

LunaticZen:      =)

RochelleDo:      depends if you are ready, no?

Andreaaspn:      whoops -- don't think I sent the timer on the fishstix brb

LunaticZen:      rb  how did it happen to you?

Fairy Flight 19:            <---ponders Duality

FoxesTruth:      LOLOLOL

LunaticZen:      re   the doors of perception open

FoxesTruth:      Duality is the illusion that we are separate

HOST LFST RB3000:            RochelleDo, I don't know if we'll ever be truly *ready*,

HOST LFST RB3000:            but we can surrender to our fate, at least, right?

LunaticZen:      agreed foxy   hey now  btw  =)

FoxesTruth:      we ARE each individual expressions of Source, and

FoxesTruth:      are all ONE

FoxesTruth:      therefore....Duality no longer exists in this

LunaticZen:      < says  never surrender

Mui Turtle:       

HOST LFST Intent:    How does one surrender to ones fate and focus on it with intensity?

HOST LFST RB3000:            Intent, with "ruthlessness, cunning, patience and sweetness" 

RochelleDo:      all the words and all the meanings, how do they affect you?

Fairy Flight 19:            OH.  Yeah.  We are all connected and not just to each other, but to nature and to Spirit as well

FoxesTruth:      reality........knowing about the illusion

LunaticZen:      < thinks all must Open doors of perceptions   silent knowledge  has much meaning

Andreaaspn:      I think Intent, that it has a lot to do with letting go of the perceptions you have of what

Andreaaspn:      your fate is

Andreaaspn:      and accepting it as it happens

Sumwhitm:        We all have one fate. The finality of life.

HOST LFST Intent:    Yes, Zen, how to do we open those doors?

LunaticZen:      world civilization is possible  brotherhood of humanity  the kingdom of Heaven  on earth

Andreaaspn:      at least that has been my experience, very challenging

Fairy Flight 19:            Once you can feel this connectedness and experience it in every situation, you find more

HOST LFST Intent:    I like that Andrea

LunaticZen:      intent  for me  it was  death  mostly

LunaticZen:      and  consciousness

LunaticZen:      and  fate perhaps?

Fairy Flight 19:            things coming into your life... manifesting

HOST LFST RB3000:            ******* Actually, we are now coming to the answer to

HOST LFST RB3000:            some of these questions, so please hold comments for

HOST LFST RB3000:            the last time. ...........................

HOST LFST RB3000:            ***** Now, my dear friends, we come to the last

HOST LFST RB3000:            segment of tonight's session: "The patterns in

HOST LFST RB3000:            everything which can reveal the steps of the path, the

HOST LFST RB3000:            clues to the map, the doorway to the infinite, the keys

HOST LFST RB3000:            to the Mind, and the revelation of the Soul" -- not to

HOST LFST RB3000:            make it too very ambitious, you see. 

HOST LFST RB3000:            .

HOST LFST RB3000:            First of all, everyone in the world, practically, is

HOST LFST RB3000:            surrounded by religious symbols -- churches, crosses,

HOST LFST RB3000:            stars, religious names for people, places, events and

HOST LFST RB3000:            TV shows (St. Elsewhere, crusades, holidays whose

HOST LFST RB3000:            spiritual meaning we have completely forgotten, etc.)

HOST LFST RB3000:            .

HOST LFST RB3000:            Next, everywhere we look, we see methods of

HOST LFST RB3000:            *divination* used for mundane fortune telling and

HOST LFST RB3000:            games, and even mere decoration: Tarot, astrology,

HOST LFST RB3000:            I Ching, Runes, enneagrams, amulets, talismans, Ouija

HOST LFST RB3000:            boards, tipping tables, dice and on and on --

HOST LFST RB3000:            everywhere, right?

HOST LFST RB3000:            .

HOST LFST RB3000:            I emphasized *divination* because every one of these

HOST LFST RB3000:            devices originated for the purpose of assisting mystical

HOST LFST RB3000:            initiates to align their attention with bands of divine

HOST LFST RB3000:            emanations.

HOST LFST RB3000:            One of the interesting, but distracting, side effects of

HOST LFST RB3000:            these methods is that the practitioner's "head

HOST LFST RB3000:            becomes turned around 180 degrees" so that they now

HOST LFST RB3000:            see the future as it approaches them, instead of the

HOST LFST RB3000:            past retreating away.

HOST LFST RB3000:            .

HOST LFST RB3000:            In fact, it was considered, in ancient times, to be far

HOST LFST RB3000:            more important to "read" deeply, than the details of

HOST LFST RB3000:            what was read out of a given session.

HOST LFST RB3000:            The point was to attune the attention and one's

HOST LFST RB3000:            energies to a high burnishment of illumination -- so

HOST LFST RB3000:            that they could *be illuminated*, not so they could

HOST LFST RB3000:            charge $10.00 to tell people what they want to hear. 

HOST LFST RB3000:            .

HOST LFST RB3000:            This brings us to the yogas and the martial arts.  Again,

HOST LFST RB3000:            these were all devised in ancient times to align the

HOST LFST RB3000:            "mind of the body" -- the intuition, feelings, senses and

HOST LFST RB3000:            kinaesthetic rapports -- with configurations of the

HOST LFST RB3000:            Attention.

HOST LFST RB3000:            They cared very little for "healing", "getting-in-shape",

HOST LFST RB3000:            "self-defense", "self-esteem" or any of the other

HOST LFST RB3000:            reasons with which we "moderns" have labelled

HOST LFST RB3000:            everything.

HOST LFST RB3000:            .

HOST LFST RB3000:            I think it was in "Little Big Man" that the old chief

HOST LFST RB3000:            explains why the white eyes are so treacherous and

HOST LFST RB3000:            violent, by way of saying, "To the Indian, everything

HOST LFST RB3000:            and everyone is alive-- not just people, but the

HOST LFST RB3000:            animals, the trees, the plants, the rocks, the sun, the

HOST LFST RB3000:            moon, the earth and the stars.

HOST LFST RB3000:            But to the white man, everything is dead-- not only the

HOST LFST RB3000:            earth, but all living things, including himself.  He is

HOST LFST RB3000:            separate from everything else, and from himself."

HOST LFST RB3000:            .

HOST LFST RB3000:            I admit that I paraphrased extensively there, but I

HOST LFST RB3000:            wanted to give you the attitude and perceptiveness

HOST LFST RB3000:            with which we can start looking at everything in our

HOST LFST RB3000:            world, including our fellows and ourselves, with

HOST LFST RB3000:            "beginner eyes", seeing everything as if for the very

HOST LFST RB3000:            first time.

HOST LFST RB3000:            Do you remember your first kiss? Your first sunset?  The first time you broke up?

HOST LFST RB3000:            .

HOST LFST RB3000:            Life is exquisite, my brothers and sisters-- far too

HOST LFST RB3000:            precious and rich to go ignorantly and in poverty to our

HOST LFST RB3000:            graves without having seen and felt what it contains,

HOST LFST RB3000:            what it is made up of.

HOST LFST RB3000:            .

HOST LFST RB3000:            For further reading on tonight's topic, I recommend the

HOST LFST RB3000:            following book list:

HOST LFST RB3000:            "Tertium Organum" and "A New Model of the Universe" by P.D. Ouspensky,

HOST LFST RB3000:            "The Power of Silence" by Carlos Castaneda,

HOST LFST RB3000:            "The Hidden Gospel" by Neil Douglas-Klotz,

HOST LFST RB3000:            "Earth--Pleiadian Keys to the Living Library" by Barbara Marciniak,

HOST LFST RB3000:            "Knowledge of the Heart" by June Singer,

HOST LFST RB3000:            "The Bible Code" by Michael Drosnin,

HOST LFST RB3000:            "Contact" by Carl Sagan, "Star Wave" by Fred Alan Wolfe,

HOST LFST RB3000:            "Programming and Metaprogramming the Human Biocomputer" by John Lilly,

HOST LFST RB3000:            "Secret Teachings of All Ages" by Manley P. Hall,

HOST LFST RB3000:            "The Flight of Feathered Serpent" by Peter Balin,

HOST LFST RB3000:            "The Book of Runes" by Ralph Blum,

HOST LFST RB3000:            "The I Ching" rendered by Carey F. Baynes,

HOST LFST RB3000:            "Jung and Tarot" by Sallie Nichols, "Paradigms Lost" by John L. Casti,

HOST LFST RB3000:            "Earth Ascending" by Jose' Arguelles,

HOST LFST RB3000:            "The Master Game" by Robert S. de Ropp,

HOST LFST RB3000:            "Michael's People" by Chelsea Quinn Yarbro,

HOST LFST RB3000:            "The Sacred Power in Your Name" by Ted Andrews,

HOST LFST RB3000:            "The Dancing Wu Li Masters" by Gary Zukav,

HOST LFST RB3000:            "The Tao of Physics" by Fritjof Capra,

HOST LFST RB3000:            and all the books you can find on astrology, the

HOST LFST RB3000:            enneagram and the kabbalah/Zohar, as well as the

HOST LFST RB3000:            apocrypha, the Dead Sea scrolls, the Tao te Ching, etc. 

HOST LFST RB3000:            I know this list may seem daunting, but it's all terribly

HOST LFST RB3000:            fascinating and, within a few decades, you'll have it all

HOST LFST RB3000:            read and you'll be re-reading your favorites, as well as

HOST LFST RB3000:            many of their other books.

HOST LFST Heart:    <~~~holding hand over Mui's mouth

HOST LFST RB3000:            ****** Well, friends-- that's all I wanted to share with

HOST LFST RB3000:            you tonight, and now it's your turn-- please share with

HOST LFST RB3000:            us    .  Go right ahead now please. ........

Mui Turtle:        So the particles of the air that we anticipate as dust are really little people trying to

Mui Turtle:        figure out what body to inhabit

RochelleDo:      the healing allowed, without price

RochelleDo:      you are incredibly lovely to ask for that vision, 3k

Dragonz Path:   "The Soul of an Indian" by Ohiyesa

HOST LFST RB3000:            Dragonz Path, thanks-- I'll look for it.

Mui Turtle:        i am getting this now

HOST LFST Intent:    3k, it is so tough though to stop the interpretation system and just see

HOST LFST Intent:    what is there....It seems to take a lifetime

Devta84:           3000, stop reading tall stories

Devta84:           and establish in a real spiritual lifestyle

HOST LFST RB3000:            Devta, too late for me, I'm afraid.

Mui Turtle:        lol but where and what it is i have no idea

Mui Turtle:        only hoping its not contagious

HOST LFST Intent:    Devta, what do you recommend?

Devta84:           Intent, establish in a viceless, egoless and a bodiless stage

Mui Turtle:        chats of this nature can make you drool uncontrollably

Sumwhitm:        I am studying The Seat of the Soul by Gary Zukav. It's very enlightening.

LunaticZen:      rb   good answer  lol

Devta84:           3000,all books contain dictates of human minds

HOST LFST RB3000:            Devta, I don't take them as "dictates" but as reminders and visual aids.

Garmar67:         I like what Van Morrisson has to say about enlightenment..."don't know what it is" 

RochelleDo:      Kinda wondering where the Tree fits in here....

Devta84:           3000,as adults our sense organs have developed

Devta84:           sufficiently for us not to need visual aids

Devta84:           3000,only childn need big pictures

HOST LFST RB3000:            Devta, actually, I find that we have *lost* more senses that we have gained! 

RochelleDo:      3000, you are incredible and I love you

Fairy Flight 19:            In other words, No.  Okay then. Thanks.

LunaticZen:      woohoo

HOST LFST RB3000:            :::::::::: marries RochelleDo :::::::::::

RochelleDo:     

Devta84:           lust has destroyed our power of discerning

Dragonz Path:   losing the senses is why so many peeps needs help by focusing on pools of water, crystals

Dragonz Path:   and such

Devta84:           3000,now do u understand why its absolutely necessary to remain pure?

HOST LFST Intent:    3k, how many senses have we lost?

Garmar67:         I wonder, if we can lose, what we always had?

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HOST LFST RB3000:            Dragonz Path, I take *whatever* help I can find, and it

HOST LFST RB3000:            is mucho considerable-- but what I am striving for is

HOST LFST RB3000:            also huge.

Devta84:           Zen,this isnt allowed here

HOST LFST Intent:    Garmar67, I don't know if we lost them, or maybe they are just dormant?

RochelleDo:      not so much lost as unused?

Dragonz Path:   the numbers very but Masters feel we only use 1/6 to 1/10;(

Garmar67:         dormant...that might be the word

HOST LFST RB3000:            Intent, how would I know how many?  I keep finding

HOST LFST RB3000:            more and more and more, in the silence.

Devta84:           Zen,some of us bestow curses and some blessings

LunaticZen:      too much  is never enuff

LunaticZen:      true devta

RochelleDo:      only the silence has the real sound worth hearing

HOST LFST RB3000:            MaranthaZ, actually, we stop when the energy of attention has subsided. 

Devta84:           3000, time is also our treaure

Devta84:           3000, by reading useless books stops us from making real effort

RochelleDo:      and the NOW is a big one

RochelleDo:      Right now

HOST LFST RB3000:            Devta, actually, I am out of "time"-- I have to rely on

HOST LFST RB3000:            eternity now.  too bad eternity is so darn short...

RochelleDo:      where would you rather be than right now

Dragonz Path:   One of the things that boggled Native Americans bout western art is that

Dragonz Path:   they would paint pictures of beautiful things

Garmar67:         Dev...I think books can be useful or "useless"...depends of the reader

Dragonz Path:   and then destroy the very things that they painted.

Mui Turtle:        I find it useful in that you get to practice typing

Devta84:           3000,what is your aim when u come here?

HOST LFST RB3000:            Devta, to make a gesture of my entire life.

HOST LFST Intent:    RochelleDo, sometimes I would like to go back into the past :)  change

HOST LFST Intent:    some mistakes for the better

HOST LFST RB3000:            Dragonz Path, but at least we have the pix, eh?  Have you seen "Silent Running"?

Dragonz Path:   yeppers, is was ...

FoxesTruth:      Dragonz..as in sand paintings???

RochelleDo:      but intent, them lessons were required, no?

Dragonz Path:   no, like in as a beautiful waterfall and then dam it up.

Dragonz Path:   or a pristine pond, and then polute it;(

HOST LFST Intent:    Yes, but don't like makin' em'....

HOST LFST RB3000:            Intent, how could any experience "have been" a "mistake" if it brought us to here???

RochelleDo:      not liking them is regardless, methinks

Devta84:           3000,but reading autobiographies of others life isn't a gesture of your life is it?

Mui Turtle:        Hi Jeannie we are typing to the mist listening to the rain and strobing the orb

RochelleDo:      it is required, no?

HOST LFST Intent:    Good point.  But sometimes they are very painful, and this is what is hard to learn....

HOST LFST RB3000:            RochelleDo, can you see a way to *like* them, in retrospect?  It's fun! 

FoxesTruth:      there are NO mistakes ..........

FoxesTruth:      no coincidences

RochelleDo:      lessons are for the learning?

Garmar67:         "Warrior, jailor, priest--the eternal trinity that symbolizes our fear of life." guess who?

HOST LFST RB3000:            Devta, your point eludes me.

JoanneM232:     so, do you all feel our dna is changing?

FoxesTruth:      mistakes are opportunities for learning

Dragonz Path:   The Indigo children are gonna set this world on its Ear real soon

HOST LFST RB3000:            JoanneM, I sure do! 

JoanneM232:     I know Lee Carroll discusses it frequently in his channeled messages

JoanneM232:     from Kryon

HOST LFST RB3000:            (Two weeks from now our subject will be: "The opening

HOST LFST RB3000:            of Ecstatic Awareness. Its domain of operation. Terror

HOST LFST RB3000:            and illness as accidental openers. The dimensions of

HOST LFST RB3000:            perception."  Please remember that this will be held in

HOST LFST RB3000:            a private room, so you'll need to email me to register

HOST LFST RB3000:            and get the room name. Be sure to review the class

HOST LFST RB3000:            logs, as well.)

Devta84:           3000,the point is ,what benefit have all the books u have read so far brought u ?

Garmar67:         DNA...has to change...as does everything in the universe.

RochelleDo:      not that anyone is Right of Wrong....just different

JeannieJ1:          true RO

JoanneM232:     I have a friend who, in '95 had an angel appear to him physically

Dragonz Path:   Our DNA is evolving even as we speak here.

HOST LFST RB3000:            Devta, they have shown me how to make sense of my visions, revelations and visitations.

JoanneM232:     and told him that dna would be changing

Devta84:           3000,has even one of these books enough power to make u feel close to GOD constantly?

Mui Turtle:        3k sometimes there is no points , see it  is contagious after all ..dna is one collective mind

Garmar67:         DNA evolving.....love the sound of that

Denilyn1102:    yes it is.. people are evolving at a much faster pace then ever before

HOST LFST RB3000:            Devta, I don't need them to do that, and I didn't offer them for that purpose.

JoanneM232:     as the earth's vibrations raise... so must our dna change to keep up

Denilyn1102:    preparing for the fourth dimension

HOST LFST Intent:    Den, the one's I see are de-evolving

JoanneM232:     yep Denilyn

RochelleDo:      what matter now is right now, no?

Denilyn1102:    thats who you choose to see intent

Dragonz Path:   Anyone notice how many more children are being born that are left handed, they use the right

Dragonz Path:   side of their brains, that's evolving

Denilyn1102:    i like to think i attract like minds

HOST LFST Intent:    Den, correct!

JoanneM232:     in the 4th, many are starting to see flashes of light,

JoanneM232:     spirals of light, angels

Garmar67:         Or...more importantly Joanne....the earth must change to keep up with OUR DNA!

Eshakti:            Host, do you think our conciousness is programmed in dna?

Mui Turtle:        Now ask yourselves why you all created this tonight

RochelleDo:      <-lefty

JoanneM232:     yes Gar, and the earth's vibrations are changing

JoanneM232:     and it can be measured.. Shuman Resonance

HOST LFST RB3000:            Mui Turtle, I can believe there may be no "point", but the journey is maaahvelous! 

HOST LFST Intent:    Eshak, I don't know

Denilyn1102:    have you ever heard of the reptilians intent

Mui Turtle:        lol 3k

HOST LFST Intent:    Den, no

HOST LFST RB3000:            Eshakti, I am certain it is, to some degree, and vice versa.

JoanneM232:     personallly like to focus on Christ Light or angelic realm as a lightworker

RochelleDo:      the point is always where the true love and

RochelleDo:      acceptance is, no?

Eshakti:            I read somthing about that In A.A. Baileys channeled works

Dragonz Path:   :) after u got involved in Meta deeply

JoanneM232:     Alice Bailey

HOST LFST RB3000:            Eshakti, my point is that everything that we are

HOST LFST RB3000:            generates all these patterns in everything, all part of

HOST LFST RB3000:            one fabric of Existence.

RochelleDo:      how can anything else matter?

Devta84:           3000,plz share one of your revealations with us

Dragonz Path:   MUI it shows

JeannieJ1:          no been involved deeply at least 20 yrs

Dragonz Path:   bet u made a major break thru ten years ago though

JeannieJ1:          trying to remember

Eshakti:            But we there ARE degrees of conciousness within that realm, No?

HOST LFST RB3000:            Devta, today I was eating a veggie sandwich while

HOST LFST RB3000:            driving, and I "noticed" that the sandwich had no

HOST LFST RB3000:            beginning and no end, but just kept "looping". This

HOST LFST RB3000:            showed me that my life is the same as a sandwich.

JeannieJ1:          have become more and more aware as time goes on

Dragonz Path:   lol, the search never ends

JoanneM232:     compare yourself with a veggie sandwich? 

RochelleDo:      LOL 3K, yep, you are the same as a samich

Dragonz Path:   that reminds me i need another piece of pizza

HOST LFST RB3000:            Eshakti, we ARE "degrees of consciousness", I find.

RochelleDo:      but we do progress

Devta84:           3000,the diff is the sandwich cant talk and u can

JeannieJ1:          all at our own speed

Devta84:           3000,what a pity state of affairs

HOST LFST RB3000:            RochelleDo, we move around, but what "progress" can there be, if there is nowhere to go?

HOST LFST RB3000:            Devta, my sandwich certainly spoke volumes to me! 

Denilyn1102:    just cuz you cant see the road up ahead 3000

JoanneM232:     I think the ancients knew what was happeing all along

JoanneM232:     knew we'd have these earth changes

RochelleDo:      3K, there is way far to go!!!!!!!!1

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Denilyn1102:    does that mean you aren't going anywhere?

Devta84:           3000, see how stone like our intellects have become?

Eshakti:            Let me explain my understanding and that is by "degree" we have advanced, ordinary, and the

HOST LFST RB3000:            Denilyn, I sure couldn't today-- really stormy! 

RochelleDo:      way way far

Eshakti:            unevolved person

Denilyn1102:    use your creative mind 2

JoanneM232:     but then, aren't we now the ancients? just reincarnated

Denilyn1102:    you can go anywhere you choose

RochelleDo:      we are only just beginning to see

HOST LFST RB3000:            RochelleDo, yes, and we always end up *HERE* and *NOW* don't we?

Mui Turtle:        <~ been here since the big blow or was it boom

Denilyn1102:    very good 3000

HOST LFST RB3000:            JoanneM, not even reincarnated-- we still are/I-am, see?

Eshakti:            Awareness must be developed according to my reading

Dragonz Path:   Energy can only be altered or changed, we have all been around since b-4 the Big Bang

Devta84:           3000,there is difference of day and night between divine consciousness

HOST LFST RB3000:            Mui Turtle, ask a photon that was born at the "big

HOST LFST RB3000:            bang" what time it is-- it will say, "It is still NOW!" 

Devta84:           and demonic consciouness

Dragonz Path:   The Awarenes of our Energy is another matter entirely

Denilyn1102:    maybe we were just seeds among the stars draon

JoanneM232:     yep put it like that, yes Dragon

Eshakti:            True Dragon, we here learning

JoanneM232:     same energy, just altered

JoanneM232:     new containers

Devta84:           demonic consciouness always think about body

Mui Turtle:        it was now and then yes

Devta84:           and bodily relations

HOST LFST Intent:    Dragonz, can we not grow the energy?

Denilyn1102:    i like that joanne

JeannieJ1:          3k......who or how did you get to this moment in time on this planet?

Denilyn1102:    new containers <grin

RochelleDo:      guess I aint ready for the rest of it, right now

Dragonz Path:   we can manifest new things from old things

HOST LFST RB3000:            Devta, maybe, but it's rather a short hop

Dragonz Path:   like star dust becomes new stars

HOST LFST Intent:    Or just grow awareness?

Denilyn1102:    that is me star dust

HOST LFST RB3000:            JeannieJ, I am the photon that is NOW being first-born

HOST LFST RB3000:            at the only big bang which is here and now, see?

Mui Turtle:        3k what hand do you use to write?

Eshakti:            No host we don't grow awareness we evolve into

HOST LFST Intent:    Mui, his toes

JeannieJ1:          the big bang of the moment?

HOST LFST RB3000:            Mui Turtle, the one that's not holding a sandwich or scratching myself.

Devta84:           3000, the truth is we are immortal souls, beings of light and might

RochelleDo:      <--adores the here and now

Dragonz Path:   Every moment is a Big Bang for something somewhere

Devta84:           and children of the supreme soul

HOST LFST Intent:    Eshakti, how do we just evolve?

Devta84:           and as souls we are all bros

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Eshakti:            reincarnating into consciousness that we gained in a past life and

Eshakti:            moving on from there.

RochelleDo:      the growth process can be quite awesome

Devta84:           3000,does one of your visions see all as bros?

Devta84:           and this whole human world a big family?

JoanneM232:     so, host , what are the secret keys you talk of?

Dragonz Path:   RochelleDo, they will you too, all u need do is ask

Devta84:           divine and holy bros n sistrs

HOST LFST RB3000:            Devta, of course-- lots of them, in fact, although rather

HOST LFST RB3000:            different than most ppl might mean it.

Devta84:           souls that now know of a better support than that of books written

Devta84:           by human beings

RochelleDo:       I do ask where I need to

Devta84:           souls that now know religion and philosophy ends where spirituality begins

JoanneM232:     Host, you know anything about the Mystery schools?

Devta84:           souls that now know this world is now old and impure

JoanneM232:     wonder if the churches will ever get it?

Devta84:           souls that now treat time as their treasure to attain gems

JoanneM232:     or continue to teach dogma

Devta84:           souls that are renouncing impure demonic desires and visions

HOST LFST RB3000:            JoanneM, the churches all *started* with this intent,

HOST LFST RB3000:            and then stopped seeing, remembering, experienceing,

HOST LFST RB3000:            and then was kept going by ignorant power-mongers, I

HOST LFST RB3000:            think.

JoanneM232:     Drag, I think something will be discovered in some hidden scrolls

JoanneM232:     yet to be discovered...

JoanneM232:     or when the pope dies

Dragonz Path:   Yeppers its in the Paw of the Sphinx:))))))))))

JoanneM232:     halls of enlightenment?

RochelleDo:      tonight will never pass this way again

KylerKay:         I don't think we should wish anyone to die.............even the Pope

HOST LFST RB3000:            RochelleDo, hey, watch out!  This moment almost clopped you on the head! 

Dragonz Path:   its tells of our Origins, the Powers to be want it kept closed for now, cuz it will turn Our

Dragonz Path:   World upside down:))))))

JoanneM232:     Drag, when do you think it'll be unlocked?

JoanneM232:     always fascinated me Drag... and how Orion is connected

JoanneM232:     to the pyramids

JoanneM232:     and the teachings of the mystery schools

JoanneM232:     their sacred geometry and all

Dragonz Path:   The Dead Sea Scrolls also has great Knowledge thats why its kept hushed up too

JoanneM232:     vatican's holdin out and has many documents under lock

Sacrecur:           Host can you ttranslate it  into simple language?

Eshakti:            The works of A.A. Baily is a mystery school callred Arcane

HOST LFST RB3000: Mystery schools: groups which initiate disciples into the

HOST LFST RB3000:            Mystery of Existence, like the Nazarenes or the priests

HOST LFST RB3000:            of ancient Egypt and Judaea.

Eshakti:            There are mystery schools today avialable to us all

JoanneM232:     from asheville, Nc,,, Robert Gilbert

JeannieJ1:          semantics

HOST LFST RB3000:            Sacrecur, it can be simple, if you undertake the ordeals

HOST LFST RB3000:            of silent experience for a long time.

Dragonz Path:   3K dont forget the Essenes or should i say Mayans:))))

JoanneM232:     Essenes always fascinating subject

JoanneM232:     taught Jesus

JeannieJ1:          become a monk

Sacrecur:           essays on Hindu mythology?

HOST LFST RB3000:            Dragonz Path, both.  Do you know of any current day

HOST LFST RB3000:            mystery schools, like Gurdjieff's, or some of the

HOST LFST RB3000:            Brazilian religions?

LeotardoDiCrapio:      Jesus and John the Baptist were both Essenes

Dragonz Path:   Hindu and Druids have deep roots together too

LeotardoDiCrapio:      The Golden Dawn

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JoanneM232:     were they essenes Leo or just taught by them?

JoanneM232:     Jesus was a Nazarene

LeotardoDiCrapio:      The Rosecrucians

LeotardoDiCrapio:      They were Essenes

Dragonz Path:   No they were Jews, who studied with the Essenes and many others during Jesus's lost years.

Sacrecur:           Drag yes when age of saanskrit existed

JoanneM232:     thought they just studied with the essenes

RochelleDo:      but I am getting there

Dragonz Path:   Read the book "Aquarian Age", its a metaphysical book on Jesus's lost years

JoanneM232:     Jesus and the Essenes ..another great book by Delores Cannon

Mui Turtle:        Jesus was never lost how could he have been

LeotardoDiCrapio:      It was also "channeled" so it's not a historically accurate book

RochelleDo:      what about the devinty that flew over head?

Eshakti:            So where were his lost years Dragonz--INDIA???

LeotardoDiCrapio:      The Aquarian Gospel of Jesus Christ

Dragonz Path:   lol MUi i stand corrected, i refer to the years the Bible left out

JoanneM232:     lost years were Egypt no?

HOST LFST RB3000:            Ok, friends-- thanks for participating tonight, and

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HOST LFST RB3000:            the last six classes of this series. Good night!